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Old 12-26-2024, 10:26 PM   Topic Starter
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LNBS: Why were the Chiefs bad in the 1980s?

Looking at the roster they had a good secondary (Albert Lewis, Deron Cherry, Kevin Ross, Lloyd Burress) and the receiving corps seemed pretty nice (Stephon Paige, Carlos Carson, Henry Marshall).

I know they never had a great quarterback but I feel like I’m missing something. For the fans who remember, why did they suck?
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Old 12-26-2024, 10:41 PM   #2
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Old 12-26-2024, 10:42 PM   #3
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Old 12-26-2024, 10:47 PM   #4
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Top of the list for Chiefs draft busts. The guy is a poser. These days I turn the channel when he is in the booth. If there was one guy I could kick in the teeth it would be him.
Why blame him though? 83 was before my sports memory started, but my dad always says he hated the draft pick at the time because Penn State was not known as a passing team so he didn't get why you want their QB? Seems like you should be mad at the GM.
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Old 12-26-2024, 10:53 PM   #5
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Why blame him though? 83 was before my sports memory started, but my dad always says he hated the draft pick at the time because Penn State was not known as a passing team so he didn't get why you want their QB? Seems like you should be mad at the GM.
You can bugger right off. You are not the first to use reason and logic to take my hate away. Blacksludge had no interest in putting in the work to play in the NFL. He was a grifter. And don't get me started on Joe Pa and Puss State.
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Old 12-27-2024, 09:45 AM   #6
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You can bugger right off. You are not the first to use reason and logic to take my hate away. Blacksludge had no interest in putting in the work to play in the NFL. He was a grifter. And don't get me started on Joe Pa and Puss State.
Dan Marino was drafted after Blackledge I believe. We had reachers in the draft IIRC, but, being out of market and no internet, not as dug into the details as I am now.
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Old 12-27-2024, 11:40 AM   #7
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Dan Marino was drafted after Blackledge I believe. We had reachers in the draft IIRC, but, being out of market and no internet, not as dug into the details as I am now.
Only Elway was drafted before Blackledge.

Dan Marino, Tony Eason, Ken O'Brien and Jim Kelly all drafted after him.
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Old 12-26-2024, 11:30 PM   #8
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Why blame him though? 83 was before my sports memory started, but my dad always says he hated the draft pick at the time because Penn State was not known as a passing team so he didn't get why you want their QB? Seems like you should be mad at the GM.
Here's some NFL education from 1983

The quarterbacks drafted after Todd Blackledge in the 1983 NFL Draft were:
Jim Kelly: Selected 14th by the Buffalo Bills
Tony Eason: Selected 15th by the New England Patriots
Ken O'Brien: Selected 24th by the New York Jets
Dan Marino: Selected 27th by the Miami Dolphins
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Why blame him though? 83 was before my sports memory started, but my dad always says he hated the draft pick at the time because Penn State was not known as a passing team so he didn't get why you want their QB? Seems like you should be mad at the GM.
"It's not bust QBs that tank franchises, it's the GMs who draft them."

Sure, I can see that, but I really think the QB on the field complete sucking asshole helps a lot
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Why blame him though? 83 was before my sports memory started, but my dad always says he hated the draft pick at the time because Penn State was not known as a passing team so he didn't get why you want their QB? Seems like you should be mad at the GM.
In fairness, Blackledge threw 22 TDs in his senior season. Those were elite numbers back then. Second nationally.
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In fairness, Blackledge threw 22 TDs in his senior season. Those were elite numbers back then. Second nationally.
He had the talent. He did not have the drive or desire to see it thru. He hung up his cleats right after the Chiefs drafted him.
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In fairness, Blackledge threw 22 TDs in his senior season. Those were elite numbers back then. Second nationally.
He also won a national championship that year

Meanwhile, Marino had regressed his senior year, and got blown out twice by Blackledge in college (Pitt and Penn State were both great teams back then). He also had the drug rumors. Marino falling to the defending AFC Champ Dolphins shows how many teams didn’t believe in him
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He also won a national championship that year

Meanwhile, Marino had regressed his senior year, and got blown out twice by Blackledge in college (Pitt and Penn State were both great teams back then). He also had the drug rumors. Marino falling to the defending AFC Champ Dolphins shows how many teams didn’t believe in him
Interesting. I never realized why he went so low in the first round.
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