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Old 12-01-2024, 10:42 AM   Topic Starter
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2024's Red zone failures

Boy, we sure have sucked balls in the redzone this year.

Thought Kareem and Dhop would help but last game we were 1 of 5 and this year we are at the bottom of the bottom third.

Can blame some on tackles but down inside the 20 you aren't holding the ball for very long.

I think the play calling has been poor and it seems our formations are so recognizable.

The inside shuffle pass has lost its luster.

We seem to have forgotten the jet sweep or quick slants.

I don't think we have had too many penalties inside the 20 but don't have the stats.

Who gets the blame here?
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Old 12-01-2024, 10:46 AM   #2
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Seemed like penalties and sacks took us out of scoring position against the Raiders. We lost like 30 yards on at least two possessions once we got into scoring position. Abominable!
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Old 12-01-2024, 10:49 AM   #3
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Run the football and don't be afraid to go for it on 4th down.

We run the ball more between the 20s than we do in the red zone.
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Old 12-02-2024, 12:15 AM   #4
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Run the football and don't be afraid to go for it on 4th down.

We run the ball more between the 20s than we do in the red zone.
Without getting too in-depth, this is probably a good start.
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Old 12-01-2024, 10:52 AM   #5
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Not to pile on Mahomes, but he did flat miss DHop in the EZ once. I think it's a combination of factors, such as the OT issues, Mahomes inaccurate passes (missed Travis wide open vs. DEN), some whiffed blocks by the IOL, penalties (both real and fraudulent), as well as some play-calling gaffes mixed in.
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Old 12-01-2024, 02:03 PM   #6
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Not to pile on Mahomes, but he did flat miss DHop in the EZ once. I think it's a combination of factors, such as the OT issues, Mahomes inaccurate passes (missed Travis wide open vs. DEN), some whiffed blocks by the IOL, penalties (both real and fraudulent), as well as some play-calling gaffes mixed in.
I really don't understand why we just won't RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially this week, with Hunt AND Pacheco.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Then play-action pass some in there. Slow the pass rush down. Help your terrible offensive tackles.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.
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Old 12-01-2024, 02:06 PM   #7
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We tried a quick slant to DHop in the RZ, but the corner shifted inside at the last second and took away his leverage
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Old 12-01-2024, 02:09 PM   #8
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We tried a quick slant to DHop in the RZ, but the corner shifted inside at the last second and took away his leverage
That was a good play by the CB, I wonder if the Chiefs tipped their hand or he just read the play well. I don't think the Chiefs run the fade route very often and that would have been a great time to change the route given the pre-snap CB shift.
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Old 12-01-2024, 02:14 PM   #9
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That was a good play by the CB, I wonder if the Chiefs tipped their hand or he just read the play well. I don't think the Chiefs run the fade route very often and that would have been a great time to change the route given the pre-snap CB shift.
Yep, that one little shift wrecked the whole damn play
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Old 12-01-2024, 02:23 PM   #10
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I really don't understand why we just won't RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially this week, with Hunt AND Pacheco.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Then play-action pass some in there. Slow the pass rush down. Help your terrible offensive tackles.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.
Andy doesn't love running the ball. I'm not counting shovel passes or WR reverses as runs. It's just not in his mindset.
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Old 12-01-2024, 02:33 PM   #11
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Andy doesn't love running the ball. I'm not counting shovel passes or WR reverses as runs. It's just not in his mindset.
Yeah, I know.

Love Andy, but wish he would just RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially when your OT's suck ass, and you have TWO really good RB's.

If for nothing else, go run heavy so that when you DO pass the ball, you've slowed the pass rush down a little and play-action will work.
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Old 12-01-2024, 04:00 PM   #12
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Yeah, I know.

Love Andy, but wish he would just RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially when your OT's suck ass, and you have TWO really good RB's.

If for nothing else, go run heavy so that when you DO pass the ball, you've slowed the pass rush down a little and play-action will work.
Reid: We're getting a lot of pressure to run the ball in the red zone. Let's line up Kelce in the shotgun. Direct snap. He'll RPO to Worthy in motion right to left then pitch it to Mahomes who's standing to the right of Kelce, who will then hand it off to Hardman who comes from the left.

That should shut them up for a week.
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Mahomes has missed a lot of wide open receivers for short and long TDs this season but I don’t blame him for most of it. I think playing without a LT really affects his timing a lot more than most realize or Mahomes will admit.
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Old 12-01-2024, 03:48 PM   #14
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I really don't understand why we just won't RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially this week, with Hunt AND Pacheco.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Then play-action pass some in there. Slow the pass rush down. Help your terrible offensive tackles.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.
The offensive line didn't get any push at all. The running game was ass on Friday and that's why they abandoned it. Can't be in 3rd and 8 all the time.
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Old 12-01-2024, 07:25 PM   #15
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The offensive line didn't get any push at all. The running game was ass on Friday and that's why they abandoned it. Can't be in 3rd and 8 all the time.
Someone should let Andy know they discovered several different types of rushes, and that it's not against the rules to call something other than hb blast.
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