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Old 11-06-2024, 10:35 PM   Topic Starter
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A Statistical Analysis of Offensive and Defensive production
at the half way point. What is remarkable to me is how consistent we are over the past 3 years through the first 8 games across the board. Each team has felt and looked very different on the field but the team numbers bear out that we are statically the same with only minor variations.Wild.

2024 through 8 Games -

PF - 203 (25 PPG)
PA - 147 (18 PPG)
TO (+/-) -4
TOT OFF YDS - 2,820 (352 YPG - 979 Ru/1,841 Pa - 122 YPG Ru/230 YPG Pa)
TOT DEF YDS - 2,349 (293 YPG - 671 Ru/1,678 Pa - 83 YPG Ru/209 YPG Pa)
1st Downs - 179 (22 1st Downs Per Game)
TOP - 4h, 11m, 10s (33 minutes TOP per game avg.)

2023 through 8 Games -

PF - 187 (23 PPG)
PA - 129 (16 PPG)
TO (+/-) -4
TOT OFF YDS - 3,051 (381 YPG - 841 Ru/2,210 Pa - 105 YPG Ru/276 YPG Pa)
TOT DEF YDS - 2,302 (287 YPG - 893 Ru/1,409 Pa - 111 YPG Ru/ 176 YPG Pa)
1st Downs - 177 (22 1st Downs Per Game)
TOP - 4h, 13m, 14s (33 minutes TOP per game avg.)

2022 through 8 Games -

PF - 243 (30 PPG)
PA - 189 (23 PPG)
TO (+/-) -1
TOT OFF YDS - 2,823 (352 YPG - 828 Ru/1,995 Pa - 103 YPG Ru/249 YPG Pa)
TOT DEF YDS - 2,812 (351 YPG - 816 Ru/1,996 Pa - 102 YPG Ru/249 YPG Pa)
1st Downs - 200 (25 1st Downs Per Game)
TOP - 4h, 13m, 33s (33 minutes TOP per game avg.)
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Old 11-06-2024, 10:42 PM   #2
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I would not have expected that. Very interesting.
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Old 11-07-2024, 12:23 AM   #3
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Old 11-07-2024, 07:22 AM   #4
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It's funny to me to see people describe this year's offense as a "poverty" offense. Highest success rate in the league and one of the best 3rd down percentages in recent memory. The numbers are only going to get better with Hopkins on board.

People seem to confuse "not explosive" with "not good."
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It's funny to me to see people describe this year's offense as a "poverty" offense. Highest success rate in the league and one of the best 3rd down percentages in recent memory. The numbers are only going to get better with Hopkins on board.

People seem to confuse "not explosive" with "not good."
Best 3rd down offense in the NFL in 13 years.
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Best 3rd down offense in the NFL in 13 years.
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Best 3rd down offense in the NFL in 13 years.
Like, highest 3rd down conversion percentage in the last 13 years?
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It's funny to me to see people describe this year's offense as a "poverty" offense. Highest success rate in the league and one of the best 3rd down percentages in recent memory. The numbers are only going to get better with Hopkins on board.

People seem to confuse "not explosive" with "not good."



I think most people are thinking about pre-DHop when they say that. It's about context. Pat had more INTs than TDs for much of the season until very recently. His PR in 4-5 games was below 90.0. Before the LVR game he went two straight games without a TD pass, and it was late Sept. the last time he threw 2 TDs in a game.

In short, the Chiefs offense was very one-dimensional. Yes, they found a way to be efficient enough to win games, but let's be honest, against who? How many toothless teams did we play over the first 9 weeks? A lot.

And just as one example, KC only managed to put 26 pts on a terrible NOR team. TB dropped 51 on the same team.

But yeah, the offense should be more explosive with DHop and the numbers will start to look better. If we get JJSS or Hollywood or even PAcheco back soon, that should give us a good bump as well, and no one will remember how KC's offense struggled to put away bad teams early in the season.
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Not really. Much better defense than in 22. Infinitely better, but the offense isn't near as potent scoring. 5 PPG isn't a minor variation.
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Thanks. I think it’s pretty interesting to look at how similar the team has been across the years. Obviously there are some stark differences but by and large the #s are close.
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Uhhhh scoring 30 PPG like in 22 is a HUGE difference than 24 or 25 PPG. 6 points a game in scoring is a chasm. Now giving up 5 PPG less on defense is a nice. I'm not seeing the similarly between this year and 22. 5 to 6 points a game is CHASM.
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Uhhhh scoring 30 PPG like in 22 is a HUGE difference than 24 or 25 PPG. 6 points a game in scoring is a chasm. Now giving up 5 PPG less on defense is a nice. I'm not seeing the similarly between this year and 22. 5 to 6 points a game is CHASM.
This D is significantly better, so I could see them being pretty close to equal, but they are definitely built pretty differently.
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just a fyi, and this is not to be critical of anyone's posts here or the OP in any way. Just discovered this tidbit and wanted to share:


Before the Chiefs acquired DHop, the Chiefs were 25th in RZ TD scoring, according to Dan Orlovsky today on Get Up!

Since acquiring Hopkins, KC has gone 7 out of 8 in RZ TD scoring. So, when you're looking at those numbers for this season in the OP, 49 of those points were scored in just the last two weeks.

The clip from GU/ESPN, some good stuff in here:
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just a fyi, and this is not to be critical of anyone's posts here or the OP in any way. Just discovered this tidbit and wanted to share:


Before the Chiefs acquired DHop, the Chiefs were 25th in RZ TD scoring, according to Dan Orlovsky today on Get Up!

Since acquiring Hopkins, KC has gone 7 out of 8 in RZ TD scoring. So, when you're looking at those numbers for this season in the OP, 49 of those points were scored in just the last two weeks.

The clip from GU/ESPN, some good stuff in here:
No offense taken. The whole point of the exercise is to evaluate the offense and defense at the half way point of the season and compare it to previous years. 30 points last week and 27 against the Raiders. We have scored “20 something” points every game this year except against the Chargers where we scored 17.
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