Spin-Off: Reiter & Wylie need to get better, or GTFO

[Dante84]

Spinning off because we need a bright light being shown on these assholes immediately. They've been riding our offense's coattails for too long and are overstaying their welcome.

They are going to get Patrick killed either by letting someone come free up the middle directly, or by forcing him to drift back and get crushed by an edge rusher who doesn't have to bend.

They are stifling Clyde's opportunities by getting thrown in the way.

Getting beat by single dudes in pass rush, getting walked back into our RB lanes when Run blocking... Not Okay.

Pretty crazy stats courtesy of @PFF:

This season, Clyde has averaged 6.6 ypc and has EIGHT 10+ yard runs when rushing towards the left side of the OL. His only TD was that direction as well.

To the right.. 2.7 ypc , ZERO 10+ yard runs#Chiefs

— Ron Kopp Jr. (@Ron_Kopp) October 9, 2020

Are you ****ing kidding me with this rep:

Poor Kelce gets laid out by the end on his route. Still trying to figure out who a two player rush gets that much pressure to force Mahomes to throw it early. Otherwise might be a walk in TD there with another second or two. #JacobsEyeInTheSky pic.twitter.com/bLh2SHKHHN

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) October 9, 2020

"Sorry, Clyde, can't go left here, I'm coming through..."

Kelce frustrated with himself here for not pulling up into the hole and taking on 51. Ideally you want to see CEH potentially bounce this one outside. #JacobsEyeInTheSky pic.twitter.com/1uLqbUrxre

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) October 9, 2020

Patriots run a cross fire. Wylie can’t get the inside shoulder. His defender gets off the block. Reiter’s defender gets off his block. 50 sets the edge on Keizer forcing the run back inside. #JacobsEyeInTheSky pic.twitter.com/fHcALIcHfU

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) October 9, 2020

Wylie and Yelder had some run blocking issues here. CEH already having to spin by the time he gets the handoff. #JacobsEyeInTheSky pic.twitter.com/5iPA41y95s

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) October 9, 2020

Compare that to the Left Side:

Fisher and Osemele create a hole. Awesome backside cut by Kelce. Like to see Keizer get some push so CEH has more room to work. One of the better blocked runs of the night. #JacobsEyeInTheSky pic.twitter.com/Ro94XwNt42

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) October 9, 2020

The down block by Osemele and Fisher is crucial here. The open up the whole play. They knock 91 into a new zip code and create the whole for CEH to follow through. #JacobsEyeInTheSky pic.twitter.com/ahqXSoepl4

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) October 9, 2020

[KChiefs1]

I think we’ve all known this for awhile.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Schwartz is sucking ass too. Fisher > Schwartz

[DJ's left nut]

I remain extremely confused as to the presence of Nick Keizer on this roster.

I mean what the !@#$ is it that he does well? He's routinely awful. Can't do anything in the pattern our out in space. Can't block. Manages to take long plays away from Kelce by reaching for balls that aren't his.

He's really friggen bad. I don't think we need for TEs on this roster and we definitely don't need 3 plus whatever POS boat anchor Keizer is.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I remain extremely confused as to the presence of Nick Keizer on this roster.

I mean what the !@#$ is it that he does well? He's routinely awful. Can't do anything in the pattern our out in space. Can't block. Manages to take long plays away from Kelce by reaching for balls that aren't his.

He's really friggen bad. I don't think we need for TEs on this roster and we definitely don't need 3 plus whatever POS boat anchor Keizer is.

I would really like to see what Ricky can do.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I remain extremely confused as to the presence of Nick Keizer on this roster.

I mean what the !@#$ is it that he does well? He's routinely awful. Can't do anything in the pattern our out in space. Can't block. Manages to take long plays away from Kelce by reaching for balls that aren't his.

He's really friggen bad. I don't think we need for TEs on this roster and we definitely don't need 3 plus whatever POS boat anchor Keizer is.

Yet the likes of Andy Reid and Eric Bieniemy have him ahead of Yelder and RSJ.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Yet the likes of Andy Reid and Eric Bieniemy have him ahead of Yelder and RSJ.

Hence my question to the audience.

Are YOU seeing something I'm not?

Because it's readily apparent that EB and Andy are.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Yet the likes of Andy Reid and Eric Bieniemy have him ahead of Yelder and RSJ.

Andy Reid is one of the greatest coaches in NFL history, but he is not infallible.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Andy Reid is one of the greatest coaches in NFL history, but he is not infallible.

This is very true. He may have too much faith in Tom Melvin. I will still believe that those guys who see all of these players are evaluating them properly. We have not seen RSJ and extremely limited amounts of Yeldor to know or say they are misevaluating these players.

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[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I remain extremely confused as to the presence of Nick Keizer on this roster.

I mean what the !@#$ is it that he does well? He's routinely awful. Can't do anything in the pattern our out in space. Can't block. Manages to take long plays away from Kelce by reaching for balls that aren't his.

He's really friggen bad. I don't think we need for TEs on this roster and we definitely don't need 3 plus whatever POS boat anchor Keizer is.

I posted about this the other day. I think they saw him as their Blake Bell replacement. So far, he can’t even do that.

[duncan_idaho]

It sure looked like Remmers made them better and more physical at RG. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Wylie had another injury so we could see what it looked like without Wylie for a while.

Schwartz looks to have lost a little physical ability, potentially. Not quite as powerful. He's also been burned by some of Mahomes' drifting back in the pocket.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It sure looked like Remmers made them better and more physical at RG. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Wylie had another injury so we could see what it looked like without Wylie for a while.

Schwartz looks to have lost a little physical ability, potentially. Not quite as powerful. He's also been burned by some of Mahomes' drifting back in the pocket.

Remmers has ZERO athleticism. And with Osemele being a stiff on the other side, if you have 2 guards that essentially cannot pull, you're removing a lot of stuff from your arsenal.

Remmers is well suited to be the backup G/T on this squad but I really don't think we want him starting for us. Guy just doesn't move well enough.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It sure looked like Remmers made them better and more physical at RG. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Wylie had another injury so we could see what it looked like without Wylie for a while.

Schwartz looks to have lost a little physical ability, potentially. Not quite as powerful. He's also been burned by some of Mahomes' drifting back in the pocket.

Which might be a product of his neighbors sucking ass

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Which might be a product of his neighbors sucking ass

I'm sorry, but Schwartz letting 1v1 matchups ride him directly into Mahomes lap has nothing to do with the RG or C.

He's simply not playing well.

And you're simultaneously heaping a disproportionate amount of blame on those 2 without acknowledging the role Schwartz has played as well as the rough game both Fisher AND Osemele (not to mention Mahomes) had in the only truly bad game the OL played this year against SD.

These two guys aren't great players - they aren't gonna give you a lot of great football. But they're good pass blockers who will give you credible performance. Such is the nature of a cap league - gotta rob peter to pay Paul if you're gonna maintain 7 guys on your roster who are at/near the top of their respective position groups.

Would I like them to be better? Sure - and keep an eye on weeks 8-10 to see if Rankin gets back and makes a difference. But they're viable NFL players who by and large perform admirably.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm sorry, but Schwartz letting 1v1 matchups ride him directly into Mahomes lap has nothing to do with the RG or C.

He's simply not playing well.

And you're simultaneously heaping a disproportionate amount of blame on those 2 without acknowledging the role Schwartz has played as well as the rough game both Fisher AND Osemele (not to mention Mahomes) had in the only truly bad game the OL played this year against SD.

These two guys aren't great players - they aren't gonna give you a lot of great football. But they're good pass blockers who will give you credible performance. Such is the nature of a cap league - gotta rob peter to pay Paul if you're gonna maintain 7 guys on your roster who are at/near the top of their respective position groups.

Would I like them to be better? Sure - and keep an eye on weeks 8-10 to see if Rankin gets back and makes a difference. But they're viable NFL players who by and large perform admirably.

Fair enough, but Schwartz is an All-Pro who was elite last season, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.