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Old 12-08-2019, 05:26 AM   Topic Starter
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Ward joins in calling out Bob Sutton
First, let me just say that the Star is putting out much, much better content this year with their new team.

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Ward is talking about a third-and-10 in overtime, when Patriots receiver Julian Edelman split wide to the right, then motioned toward slot receiver Phillip Dorsett at the snap. Ward followed Edelman, the snap timed so that Dorsett rubbed Ward and gave Edelman an extra step.

Tom Brady’s pass, of course, was completed. First down. Three plays later, another conversion. Three plays after that, the touchdown that ended the Chiefs’ season.

"I knew that was coming,” Ward says. “But I couldn’t do nothing about it.”

Ward means he could not stop it because of how he and his teammates were coached. The Patriots had run the exact same play on a third down earlier in the drive, on the other side of the field: Edelman split wide left, motioning toward Dorsett in the slot, his route aided by a rub, the pass completed for a first down.

"So I knew it was coming,” Ward continues. “I couldn’t do nothing about it because I was told to stay down. If I would’ve been like, ‘Nah, nah, nah, let’s in-and-out,’ it would’ve played out different. (If they) kick a field goal, miss or make it, Pat Mahomes goes down and scores a touchdown and we win the game and we’re in the Super Bowl.

“I was instructed to stay down, but I could’ve told (fellow cornerback Kendall) Fuller, ‘Man, let’s in-and-out.’ Because the same thing just happened on the other side.”

Ward pauses. Bob Sutton, then the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator, had been clear in his directives on the Patriots’ fateful drive. Players lose jobs for freelancing.

“But I’m the one that’s playing,” Ward says. “I still could’ve overruled that, and told Fuller, ‘Let’s work together.’”

Another pause.

“Bob was ... man.”

One more pause.

“I ain’t going to say nothing about that.”
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:29 AM   #2
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If you make a play no coach is going be upset with that do what ever it takes to win.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:14 AM   #3
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If you make a play no coach is going be upset with that do what ever it takes to win.
We can’t assume Bob was a coach. Roach maybe, but definitely not a coach.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:41 AM   #4
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If you make a play no coach is going be upset with that do what ever it takes to win.
Flashbacks to Ditka chewing Harbaugh's ass on national TV in 1987 every time he threw a TD instead of handing off.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:32 AM   #5
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If you make a play no coach is going be upset with that do what ever it takes to win.
If he wasn't a rookie fighting for playing time, yeah. But he was in no position to go against Sutton. What if he had played it the way he wanted and it was completed anyway? I have no doubt that Marcus Peters in that situation would have ignored Sutton. But I don't think that we want anyone behaving like Peters.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:46 AM   #6
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If he wasn't a rookie fighting for playing time, yeah. But he was in no position to go against Sutton. What if he had played it the way he wanted and it was completed anyway? I have no doubt that Marcus Peters in that situation would have ignored Sutton. But I don't think that we want anyone behaving like Peters.
He didnt go against him. Sutton was a boob to set in his ways Ward was a good soldier and played Suttons scheme no matter how wrong.

We will never know what could have been if he had gone rogue. I will say Wards int sealed the game in Suttons defense if not for dumbass Ford. I just don't like players blaming ex coaches right or wrong makes you look like a blamer.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:52 AM   #7
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Is it any coincidence that the Atlanta Falcons suck (even more) ever since Sutton was hired on as an assistant there? I think not.
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Is it any coincidence that the Atlanta Falcons suck (even more) ever since Sutton was hired on as an assistant there? I think not.
I thought they sucked last year, too?
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I thought they sucked last year, too?
Yeah, they were 7-9 I believe. 3-9 this year thus far.
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If you make a play no coach is going be upset with that do what ever it takes to win.
Disagree. Flashback to Travis Kelce getting chewed out by Eric Bieniemy for the impromptu hook-and-ladder.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:14 AM   #11
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If you make a play no coach is going be upset with that do what ever it takes to win.
Ya' think? It's the second to last game of the season and you're going to just line up and knowingly let Sutton and Brady fist your kiester?

Weak shit, Ward.

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The old man should of been fired after the debacle in Indy....2013...blowing a 28 point lead.
…..or after the Steelers all field goal playoff loss (hard to get too picky here, they didn't score a TD but I don't think they punted, either)

…..or most certainly after the Titans playoff debacle. That second half was 2013 Colts bad.
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…..or after the Steelers all field goal playoff loss (hard to get too picky here, they didn't score a TD but I don't think they punted, either)

…..or most certainly after the Titans playoff debacle. That second half was 2013 Colts bad.
Andy/Alex sucked hard root there, too.

In fact, Andy seems incapable of beating the Titans. I'll be scared shitless if they come back to Arrowhead.
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…..or after the Steelers all field goal playoff loss (hard to get too picky here, they didn't score a TD but I don't think they punted, either)

…..or most certainly after the Titans playoff debacle. That second half was 2013 Colts bad.
The playoff loss to the Steelers is on the offense. Could the defense have played a bit better? Sure. But you never get perfection. Competence is your minimum requirement and the D gave us that for that game. The offense far from it however.
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The playoff loss to the Steelers is on the offense. Could the defense have played a bit better? Sure. But you never get perfection. Competence is your minimum requirement and the D gave us that for that game. The offense far from it however.
Right. Score a TD.

But, again, to be fair, the play where Tyreek streaked downfield wide open on a fly pattern and Alex Smith just didn't have the physical ability to get him the ball is what got Mahomes drafted.

Guaranteed.

Clay has a gif of that play.
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