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Chiefs run game success keyed by athletic OL

FYI: Brandon Thorn (the author) is kind of obsessed with OL play.

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Old 09-27-2017, 12:23 PM   #2
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Yeah I credit Hunt for the run game more than the OL. OL has problems with penalties and execution.
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:26 PM   #3
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Yeah I credit Hunt for the run game more than the OL. OL has problems with penalties and execution.
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:38 PM   #4
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Man those were fun to watch. Hunt is good (very, very good) but would not get anywhere without being kept clean through the LOS.
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:50 PM   #5
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Homers blaming the OL need to can it.

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Old 09-27-2017, 12:54 PM   #6
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QJ: you gotta clean up the OP.

You've cut and paste the same story like three times in the OP.
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:56 PM   #7
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QJ: you gotta clean up the OP.

You've cut and paste the same story like three times in the OP.
Damn. My bad...

Edit: It's fixed.

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Yeah let's not act like the OL has stalled any drives.
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Jesus - this offense is just clever as hell. Every time I'm able to go through those GIF breakdowns like this or what Nick Jacobs, Baldinger or MNChieffan do, you can find all kinds of creative wrinkles that just makes you wonder how the hell anyone ever gets a stop in the NFL.

That little quick slant to start the 2nd half to Hill looked basic as all get out, but look at what that RPO action does to drag the LBs down. How do you defend that play? If they bail, Smith hands it off and Hunt has a MASSIVE hole up the middle.

Reid/Nagy impress the hell out of me, man. Those guys have built one hellacious offensive system. Yeah, it takes skill and talent to make it work but can you imagine giving the keys to this ferrari to Herm Edwards? Ron Rivera? At least 2/3 of the staff in the league wouldn't have been able to come up with the stuff these guys have developed.

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Old 09-27-2017, 01:24 PM   #10
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Jesus - this offense is just clever as hell. Every time I'm able to go through those GIF breakdowns like this or what Nick Jacobs, Baldinger or MNChieffan do, you can find all kinds of creative wrinkles that just makes you wonder how the hell anyone ever gets a stop in the NFL.

That little quick slant to start the 2nd half to Hill looked basic as all get out, but look at what that RPO action does to drag the LBs down. How do you defend that play? If they bail, Smith hands it off and Hunt has a MASSIVE hole up the middle.

Reid/Nagy impress the hell out of me, man. Those guys have built one hellacious offensive system. Yeah, it takes skill and talent to make it work but can you imagine giving the keys to this ferrari to Herm Edwards? Ron Rivera? At least 2/3 of the staff in the league wouldn't have been able to come up with the stuff these guys have developed.

We have one hell of a staff.
So that begs the question of how they tend to get bogged down at times?
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So that begs the question of how they tend to get bogged down at times?
I've made my position on that known.

I think Reid's just slow-playing. He's checking through, so to speak; a rope a dope. He's running plays designed to set up plays in the 3rd/4th quarter. Or plays designed to expose tells/weaknesses later on.

They talk about attacking that B gap, I think he was running plays in the 2nd quarter to test out where they might have a weakness and I'm betting part of that process exposed those flaws in the Chargers run-fit.

I don't think Reid has any inclination towards just keeping the hammer down for 4 quarters and never has. We've seen it over and over and over again. If they're falling behind, he may let it hang out. But if he can move pieces around and not show his hand while figuring out what the opponent has to work with, he'll do that until he feels like he has/needs an advantage.

I very much doubt that for a quarter or two every week he just forgets that he's one of the brightest offensive minds in the history of the league. He does it on purpose. Besides, there's only so much clever you can show play after play before the defense has a chance to get a feel for and diagnose it. I think he understands that and tries to avoid letting the offense get too predictable, perhaps at the expense of allowing it to stagnate at times.
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I've made my position on that known.

I think Reid's just slow-playing. He's checking through, so to speak; a rope a dope. He's running plays designed to set up plays in the 3rd/4th quarter. Or plays designed to expose tells/weaknesses later on.

They talk about attacking that B gap, I think he was running plays in the 2nd quarter to test out where they might have a weakness and I'm betting part of that process exposed those flaws in the Chargers run-fit.

I don't think Reid has any inclination towards just keeping the hammer down for 4 quarters and never has. We've seen it over and over and over again. If they're falling behind, he may let it hang out. But if he can move pieces around and not show his hand while figuring out what the opponent has to work with, he'll do that until he feels like he has/needs an advantage.

I very much doubt that for a quarter or two every week he just forgets that he's one of the brightest offensive minds in the history of the league. He does it on purpose. Besides, there's only so much clever you can show play after play before the defense has a chance to get a feel for and diagnose it. I think he understands that and tries to avoid letting the offense get too predictable, perhaps at the expense of allowing it to stagnate at times.
Maybe

But it seems it would be damn hard to figure all that out during a game while in the sidelines. But he does seem to be a savant so I'd imagine it's easy for him.

It could very well be some of this though, paired with a conservative qb. I'm really interested to see what it's like in the next few years with Mahomes.
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Yeah let's not act like the OL has stalled any drives.
Sure, then let's not act like our running game is all on Hunt and not partially because of the job our offensive line is doing.
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But it seems it would be damn hard to figure all that out during a game while in the sidelines. But he does seem to be a savant so I'd imagine it's easy for him.

It could very well be some of this though, paired with a conservative qb. I'm really interested to see what it's like in the next few years with Mahomes.
Well he has Chilly in the press-box and Nagy with those little tablets that can get the coaches tape in damn near real-time.

And I suspect he has an idea what he's going to see before he tries it based on film study. He just runs the plays to confirm.
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I've made my position on that known.

I think Reid's just slow-playing. He's checking through, so to speak; a rope a dope. He's running plays designed to set up plays in the 3rd/4th quarter. Or plays designed to expose tells/weaknesses later on.

They talk about attacking that B gap, I think he was running plays in the 2nd quarter to test out where they might have a weakness and I'm betting part of that process exposed those flaws in the Chargers run-fit.

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I very much doubt that for a quarter or two every week he just forgets that he's one of the brightest offensive minds in the history of the league. He does it on purpose. Besides, there's only so much clever you can show play after play before the defense has a chance to get a feel for and diagnose it. I think he understands that and tries to avoid letting the offense get too predictable, perhaps at the expense of allowing it to stagnate at times.
Or ...they are just monkeys throwing darts at a board and get lucky every now and then. I've heard it both ways.
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