Football Broncos sign DE Jarvis Green

Mile High Mania · 03-09-2010, 02:50 PM

DE Jarvis Green's deal with Denver: Four years, max value of $20 million, $4.5 million in first year of deal and $7.5 million in first two.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/...&position=also

Ok, so he's 31 years old... had knee surgery in 2009, missing 3 games and is a former Patriot. Personally, I have not paid that much attention to the guy... so, what says you?

lostcause · 03-09-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

DE Jarvis Green's deal with Denver: Four years, max value of $20 million, $4.5 million in first year of deal and $7.5 million in first two.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/...&position=also

Ok, so he's 31 years old... had knee surgery in 2009, missing 3 games and is a former Patriot. Personally, I have not paid that much attention to the guy... so, what says you?

All I know is that Scott Pioli is currently pissed he had to deal with Thomas Jones and Fargas in KC today and missed his chance to sign Green.

Amnorix · 03-09-2010, 03:01 PM

Well, who knows what he'll do now that he's 31 and is coming off knee surgery. I can tell you that for the Patriots he was a very solid situational player, in particular a pass rusher off the 3-4 DE position, and spot starter.

He was, easily, the best DL pass rusher the Patriots had during the last 8 or whatever years we've had him. He also had an eye for the spotlight, with many key sacks in the playoffs, etc. IIRC, he had three sacks of Manning in an AFCC game 5 or 6 years ago.

As the Patriots defensive backfield has struggled, so have his sack numbers (perhaps unsurprisingly) in the last few years. You can look at him as a very good situational player / superb backup, or an ok starter. He's not going to excite anyone really as a full time starter, especially in the 3-4, as he's a little light for the position and may wear down over time.

BigChiefFan · 03-09-2010, 03:03 PM

Pretty good pick-up, IMO.

**Bane** · 03-09-2010, 03:03 PM

Looks like panic mode for McFistpump and the Donks.Text book win now signings,that indicate his ass in on the line to produce since he choked like a crack whore last season.

Mile High Mania · 03-09-2010, 03:05 PM

Yeah, I agree.... if they have thoughts of him being a full-time starter, then I think expectations should be tempered a bit. Overall, I don't have any problems at all with the structure of the deal and at 31... he's still young enough, there are a couple of good years left in his tank.

Mile High Mania · 03-09-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

Looks like panic mode for McFistpump and the Donks.Text book win now signings,that indicate his ass in on the line to produce since he choked like a crack whore last season.

Ok...

Garcia Bronco · 03-09-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Well, who knows what he'll do now that he's 31 and is coming off knee surgery. I can tell you that for the Patriots he was a very solid situational player, in particular a pass rusher off the 3-4 DE position, and spot starter.

He was, easily, the best DL pass rusher the Patriots had during the last 8 or whatever years we've had him. He also had an eye for the spotlight, with many key sacks in the playoffs, etc. IIRC, he had three sacks of Manning in an AFCC game 5 or 6 years ago.

As the Patriots defensive backfield has struggled, so have his sack numbers (perhaps unsurprisingly) in the last few years. You can look at him as a very good situational player / superb backup, or an ok starter. He's not going to excite anyone really as a full time starter, especially in the 3-4, as he's a little light for the position and may wear down over time.

He'll have Elvis behind him on passing downs...and Dummervil.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-09-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

DE Jarvis Green's deal with Denver: Four years, max value of $20 million, $4.5 million in first year of deal and $7.5 million in first two.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/...&position=also

Ok, so he's 31 years old... had knee surgery in 2009, missing 3 games and is a former Patriot. Personally, I have not paid that much attention to the guy... so, what says you?

That is a piss awful contract.

JD10367 · 03-09-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Well, who knows what he'll do now that he's 31 and is coming off knee surgery. I can tell you that for the Patriots he was a very solid situational player, in particular a pass rusher off the 3-4 DE position, and spot starter.

He was, easily, the best DL pass rusher the Patriots had during the last 8 or whatever years we've had him. He also had an eye for the spotlight, with many key sacks in the playoffs, etc. IIRC, he had three sacks of Manning in an AFCC game 5 or 6 years ago.

As the Patriots defensive backfield has struggled, so have his sack numbers (perhaps unsurprisingly) in the last few years. You can look at him as a very good situational player / superb backup, or an ok starter. He's not going to excite anyone really as a full time starter, especially in the 3-4, as he's a little light for the position and may wear down over time.

This.

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That is a piss awful contract.

And this. That's a lot of jack for a guy over 30 coming off injury who was never a starter. I would've been happy if he'd stayed, but for that kind of dough, meh.

easymobee · 03-09-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

Looks like panic mode for McFistpump and the Donks.Text book win now signings,that indicate his ass in on the line to produce since he choked like a crack whore last season.

If Green is a win now panic signing. What is Vrabel? A win 5 yrs ago panic signing?
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Amnorix · 03-09-2010, 04:13 PM

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And this. That's a lot of jack for a guy over 30 coming off injury who was never a starter. I would've been happy if he'd stayed, but for that kind of dough, meh.

IIRC, he was a very highly paid backup/spot starter for us. For example, he was the 6th highest paid Patriot in 2009 in terms of cap number. $1MM roster bonus, $2.5MM salary and $600K pro rated signing bonus.

http://www.patscap.com/2009capinfo.html

**DaFace** · 03-09-2010, 04:15 PM

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That is a piss awful contract.

Yeah, that's my only thought. Seems like a decent addition in certain situations, but that's a lot of dough. Still, I'd take a little minor overspending over what we've done so far.

EDIT: I hadn't seen the Thomas Jones news yet.

easymobee · 03-09-2010, 04:16 PM

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T-post Tom · 03-09-2010, 04:18 PM

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If Green is a win now panic signing. What is Vrabel? A win 5 yrs ago panic signing?
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