How do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season?

CoMoChief · 07-05-2005, 11:25 AM

I've been on other boards around the internet sports world and there have been alot of people that dog the Chiefs. Some people just plain do not know what they're talking about, but yet others have some key points. Put aside the fact that you are a die hard Chiefs fan and think, how do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season?

In all honesty, I think this is a do or die season. We will more than likely lose Shields after this season, and possibly Roaf, but then again I have heard that Roaf my play for a couple more seasons, if that's true, and granted he can still play at a high level, then I think our O-line is in good shape. If they both leave, then our line will still be ok, but our younger guys have to step up big time to fill those kinds of shoes. From what I have heard from the OTA's, I don't think that will be a problem.

Here's a question that someone from another board asked me and it got me to think. "If the Chiefs play some teams with good defenses, and if their offense has a few bad games, can you really rely on their defense to win a few games for you?" I told him I didn't really know. I think our defensive line needs to step up big and play this season. Last season it was arguably the strongest part of our defense, but that's not saying much as our LB core was awful as was our secondary. This season on paper it is probably the weakest part of our defense. Can Jared Allen produce even more than what he did last season, or will Carlos Hall take away some PT from him because God knows that Hicks has a secure spot as LE, which pisses me off to no end. Can Dalton produce like he did last season, chances are that he will. Sims is doo-doo butter. He is simply a bust whether you like it or not. I can't believe that CP and DV listened to that jack off buddy from UNC in drafting Sims. I can understand that a QB can often be a bust in the NFL because the QB is the hardest position, but DT??? Come on, given his size and strength, how hard is it to be productive? Siavii needs to replace him as the starter I think. Our LBs will be our strength, no doubt. We will have some of the best speed in the NFL. Can Mitchell hold down the fort at MLB? Last year he showed some signs but he is VERY inconsistant and is a fairly poor tackler as a MLB. He is very athletic and thats a plus and from what I have heard in the OTAs is that he's kicking ass. But thats in no pads. Can he wrap up is the question. Can Ambrose handle the load while Warfield serves his suspension if there is one? In my eyes hes another McCleon but older. Yeah he made the Pro-Bowl, but that was almost a decade ago. Having Deion Sanders is one thing and is the only exception to that. The first 4 games of the Chiefs schedule are tough, real tough. We have always had close games with Denver and Oakland and the Eagles are one of the best teams in the NFL and the Jets are gonna be better than they were last season I think. If we can go 2-2, then its a sure playoff bound Chiefs team in 2005. If we fall to 0-4, then I think this season will be like the last one.

The defensive line and Mitchell I believe are the keys to this defense getting better or respectable. We need a defense that can win us games because our offense wont be there for us all the time, they can only do so much. I'm talking about a defense that can help a team win 14-10 or something like that. I doubt the Chiefs can make that happen. I still think it will take some time to gel the players as one defensive unit. I can see us being very good mid to late season, which is what we need I think, I think its always important to thrive going in to the playoffs. After we play at SD I think our schedule is very favorable. What do you guys think?

NYJ - W
@OAK - W
@DEN - L
PHL - L
Bye
WSH - W
@MIA - W
@SD - L
OAK - W
@BUF - W
@HOU - W
NE - L
DEN - W
@DAL - W
@NYG - W
SD - W
CIN - W

Overall Record 12-4 AFC West Division Champs

MOhillbilly · 07-05-2005, 11:27 AM

between 7-9&9-7 no playoffs

whoman69 · 07-05-2005, 11:28 AM

Put this in the file with all the other prediction threads. 11-5, West Division Champs.

BIG_DADDY · 07-05-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Put this in the file with all the other prediction threads. 11-5, West Division Champs.

What he said.

TRR · 07-05-2005, 11:31 AM

The main thing I'm hearing from sports writers, radio hosts, and other boards is that they think KC's offense is too old to maintain the level of production it has for the last several seasons.

I completely disagree...I think their claim i's more wishful thinking than anything.

**ptlyon** · 07-05-2005, 11:32 AM

I think my p#nis is bigger than the average Egyptians.

Carlota69 · 07-05-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

I think my p#nis is bigger than the average Egyptians.

12-4 and yes it is a do or die season!!!!!!!

HC_Chief · 07-05-2005, 11:43 AM

11-5 Regular Season
3-0 Playoffs
SB Victory.

Do or die.

Wile_E_Coyote · 07-05-2005, 11:48 AM

I ran a multiple choice poll last week listing all the games & having voters pick the wins. 800 total picks divided by 66 voters came to 12.12 wins. Expectations are high, could be a year of disappointment for many

TRR · 07-05-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

I ran a multiple choice poll last week listing all the games & having voters pick the wins. 800 total picks divided by 66 voters came to 12.12 wins. Expectations are high, could be a year of disappointment for many

Injuries will play a key. The loss of Maz, Boe, Wilson, Barber, Priest, Welbourn, Mitchell, and McCleon for some or all of last season killed any chance we had (among other things).

Good teams can overcome injuries. However, losing player after player takes it's toll.

Wile_E_Coyote · 07-05-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Injuries will play a key. The loss of Maz, Boe, Wilson, Barber, Priest, Welbourn, Mitchell, and McCleon for some or all of last season killed any chance we had (among other things).

Good teams can overcome injuries. However, losing player after player takes it's toll.

last season's 7-9 season after a 13-3 season, even with the outstanding offseason, has left me with the wait & see attitude. For my own mental health

KChiefs1 · 07-05-2005, 01:14 PM

I've been calling 12-4 this year too.

I think it's destiny the Chiefs win it all this year since the Mentor has passed on.

Amnorix · 07-05-2005, 02:53 PM

Put me down for 10-6 and either outright AFC West win, or a wildcard slot.

As usual, the AFC is going to be a dogfight. I admit I have trouble seeing the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, mostly because of how tough the conference is. If the defense can really come together as the year goes along, though, anything is possible.

They MUST at least win the division to have any chance of the SB. No way in hell any team in the AFC is going to win 3 road games in a row in the playoffs. Absolutely no-frickin-way.

bobbything · 07-05-2005, 03:22 PM

I've heard the sports writers say that the offense will slip a little. However, it's very hard to ignore the defensive moves KC made this year. Regardless of how horrible the D has been over the last 4-5 seasons, on paper, they look to have a very solid defensive core.

I think too many people are taking the last few years into account when analyzing this team. I don't see the offense slipping below a top 5 spot all season. And, since I honestly think that the defense, on paper, has drastically improved, I think this team is one of 4 to beat in the AFC; along with Indy, New England, and (yes, I believe this) Baltimore.

I believe the Chiefs will win the West with an 11-5, maybe 12-4, record. The Rai ders will mimic the Chiefs of 2000 where, without a decent RB, they're going to be chucking the ball 50 times per game and finish 7-9. The Donkos will do their typical 9-7, maybe 10-6, season while holding serve at home most of the time. The Chargers are the "who knows" of this conference. I mean, up until last year, Drew Brees has been highly mediocre, so why would anyone think that he's going to be as good in a Marty Schottenheimer offense? He had a 1995-96 Steve Bono like season, and will follow it up with a 1996-97 Steve Bono like season. Chargers go 8-8.

KC wins the conference by at least 2 games.

The playoffs are an entirely different story. I just want to get through the season first.

teedubya · 07-05-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

I think my p#nis is bigger than the average Egyptians.

I dont know... have you ever seen one walk around?

07-05-2005, 11:25 AM
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7712254	How do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season? I've been on other boards around the internet sports world and there have been alot of people that dog the Chiefs. Some people just plain do not know what they're talking about, but yet others have some key points. Put aside the fact that you are a die hard Chiefs fan and think, how do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season? In all honesty, I think this is a do or die season. We will more than likely lose Shields after this season, and possibly Roaf, but then again I have heard that Roaf my play for a couple more seasons, if that's true, and granted he can still play at a high level, then I think our O-line is in good shape. If they both leave, then our line will still be ok, but our younger guys have to step up big time to fill those kinds of shoes. From what I have heard from the OTA's, I don't think that will be a problem. Here's a question that someone from another board asked me and it got me to think. "If the Chiefs play some teams with good defenses, and if their offense has a few bad games, can you really rely on their defense to win a few games for you?" I told him I didn't really know. I think our defensive line needs to step up big and play this season. Last season it was arguably the strongest part of our defense, but that's not saying much as our LB core was awful as was our secondary. This season on paper it is probably the weakest part of our defense. Can Jared Allen produce even more than what he did last season, or will Carlos Hall take away some PT from him because God knows that Hicks has a secure spot as LE, which pisses me off to no end. Can Dalton produce like he did last season, chances are that he will. Sims is doo-doo butter. He is simply a bust whether you like it or not. I can't believe that CP and DV listened to that jack off buddy from UNC in drafting Sims. I can understand that a QB can often be a bust in the NFL because the QB is the hardest position, but DT??? Come on, given his size and strength, how hard is it to be productive? Siavii needs to replace him as the starter I think. Our LBs will be our strength, no doubt. We will have some of the best speed in the NFL. Can Mitchell hold down the fort at MLB? Last year he showed some signs but he is VERY inconsistant and is a fairly poor tackler as a MLB. He is very athletic and thats a plus and from what I have heard in the OTAs is that he's kicking ass. But thats in no pads. Can he wrap up is the question. Can Ambrose handle the load while Warfield serves his suspension if there is one? In my eyes hes another McCleon but older. Yeah he made the Pro-Bowl, but that was almost a decade ago. Having Deion Sanders is one thing and is the only exception to that. The first 4 games of the Chiefs schedule are tough, real tough. We have always had close games with Denver and Oakland and the Eagles are one of the best teams in the NFL and the Jets are gonna be better than they were last season I think. If we can go 2-2, then its a sure playoff bound Chiefs team in 2005. If we fall to 0-4, then I think this season will be like the last one. The defensive line and Mitchell I believe are the keys to this defense getting better or respectable. We need a defense that can win us games because our offense wont be there for us all the time, they can only do so much. I'm talking about a defense that can help a team win 14-10 or something like that. I doubt the Chiefs can make that happen. I still think it will take some time to gel the players as one defensive unit. I can see us being very good mid to late season, which is what we need I think, I think its always important to thrive going in to the playoffs. After we play at SD I think our schedule is very favorable. What do you guys think? NYJ - W @OAK - W @DEN - L PHL - L Bye WSH - W @MIA - W @SD - L OAK - W @BUF - W @HOU - W NE - L DEN - W @DAL - W @NYG - W SD - W CIN - W Overall Record 12-4 AFC West Division Champs
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07-05-2005, 11:27 AM	#2
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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9490185	The main thing I'm hearing from sports writers, radio hosts, and other boards is that they think KC's offense is too old to maintain the level of production it has for the last several seasons. I completely disagree...I think their claim i's more wishful thinking than anything.
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07-05-2005, 11:43 AM	#8
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Wile_E_Coyote avatar down for remodel Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	I ran a multiple choice poll last week listing all the games & having voters pick the wins. 800 total picks divided by 66 voters came to 12.12 wins. Expectations are high, could be a year of disappointment for many
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07-05-2005, 01:14 PM	#12
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	I've been calling 12-4 this year too. I think it's destiny the Chiefs win it all this year since the Mentor has passed on. __________________
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07-05-2005, 02:53 PM	#13
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	Put me down for 10-6 and either outright AFC West win, or a wildcard slot. As usual, the AFC is going to be a dogfight. I admit I have trouble seeing the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, mostly because of how tough the conference is. If the defense can really come together as the year goes along, though, anything is possible. They MUST at least win the division to have any chance of the SB. No way in hell any team in the AFC is going to win 3 road games in a row in the playoffs. Absolutely no-frickin-way. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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07-05-2005, 03:22 PM	#14
bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	I've heard the sports writers say that the offense will slip a little. However, it's very hard to ignore the defensive moves KC made this year. Regardless of how horrible the D has been over the last 4-5 seasons, on paper, they look to have a very solid defensive core. I think too many people are taking the last few years into account when analyzing this team. I don't see the offense slipping below a top 5 spot all season. And, since I honestly think that the defense, on paper, has drastically improved, I think this team is one of 4 to beat in the AFC; along with Indy, New England, and (yes, I believe this) Baltimore. I believe the Chiefs will win the West with an 11-5, maybe 12-4, record. The Rai ders will mimic the Chiefs of 2000 where, without a decent RB, they're going to be chucking the ball 50 times per game and finish 7-9. The Donkos will do their typical 9-7, maybe 10-6, season while holding serve at home most of the time. The Chargers are the "who knows" of this conference. I mean, up until last year, Drew Brees has been highly mediocre, so why would anyone think that he's going to be as good in a Marty Schottenheimer offense? He had a 1995-96 Steve Bono like season, and will follow it up with a 1996-97 Steve Bono like season. Chargers go 8-8. KC wins the conference by at least 2 games. The playoffs are an entirely different story. I just want to get through the season first.
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