stumped

augustorm · 06-23-2005, 02:09 PM

Hey peeps,
I'm having some probs with one of my machines.
One day I pulled a memory board out to compare to one that a friend had given me. I saw that they were not the same so I put mine back in and gave the other one back to my friend telling him that I could not use it with my MB.
I go to boot my machine and everything looked normal...everything until windows tried to load....just when I think I am going to get the Wallpaper and my network logon, the machine just shuts down.
No error msg, nothing, it is as if I myself had chose the shutdown option.
So, I've been troubleshooting for about two weeks now and finally I see a error msg during the autoexec.bat screen that says: "Memory manager not found". and it then it refers to EMM386.
The thing runs in safe mode all day long....but when i choose normal boot, it shuts itself down.
I have reinstalled windows. I have not reformatted yet.
Maybe its just time for a better machine.
I have wanted to see for myself if amd processors are better for game play.
This is my game machine that is having the probs.
So, think it could be perhaps a virus doing this or perhaps my powersupply. I just dont get it.

**Saulbadguy** · 06-23-2005, 02:21 PM

Wow..EMM386. Its been awhile since i've heard that one.

**BigRedChief** · 06-23-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Wow..EMM386. Its been awhile since i've heard that one.

Throw it in the trash and go get yourself a new one.

I suspect someone is playing a joke here?

AeroSquid · 06-23-2005, 03:05 PM

reseat that ram... i'll bet you didn't get it back in good. You might spray it with some contact cleaner (or rub it with a rubber eraser lol)

augustorm · 06-23-2005, 04:27 PM

Yeah I'm for real and the machine is a pent III 900. Thats not so old. I have no idea why i got the error of the mem manager. Thats why im stumped. I have reseated the ram twice and the ram reports during the post sequence. I dunno.
So. next question...do amd processors jive better with gaming and why? Okay..that was two questions.

**Saulbadguy** · 06-23-2005, 04:37 PM

Are you running Windows 98?

augustorm · 06-23-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Are you running Windows 98?

Yeah 98SE

Hammock Parties · 06-23-2005, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by augustorm

Yeah I'm for real and the machine is a pent III 900. Thats not so old. I have no idea why i got the error of the mem manager. Thats why im stumped. I have reseated the ram twice and the ram reports during the post sequence. I dunno.
So. next question...do amd processors jive better with gaming and why? Okay..that was two questions.

Dude, that's REALLY old. I'm thinking my XP 3000+ is old. Jesus.

augustorm · 06-23-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Dude, that's REALLY old. I'm thinking my XP 3000+ is old. Jesus.

xp....you've got to be kidding...XP sucks arse
Way too many gamming issues...not to mention security.
Besides, I'm trying to save this thing for my wife. I dont wanna trash it.
Well I do want to build another one for gamming. It is past its prime for games, I do at least recognize that. But even the new machine will have 98SE installed on it. Its the only OS I have used that doesn't have issues with any games i play.

Hammock Parties · 06-23-2005, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by augustorm

xp....you've got to be kidding...XP sucks arse
Way too many gamming issues...not to mention security.
Besides, I'm trying to save this thing for my wife. I dont wanna trash it.
Well I do want to build another one for gamming. It is past its prime for games, I do at least recognize that. But even the new machine will have 98SE installed on it. Its the only OS I have used that doesn't have issues with any games i play.

I wasn't talking about Windows XP (I run 2000 Pro), I was talking about the AMD processor which runs at an enquivalent of 3.0 Ghz.

And yes, XP was insecure and had gaming issues 3 years ago. Win 98 has more gaming issues than XP now.

augustorm · 06-23-2005, 05:11 PM

lol, I'm thinking you were talking os's...not processors.
anyhoo, is AMD the way to go for gaming?

Hammock Parties · 06-23-2005, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by augustorm

lol, I'm thinking you were talking os's...not processors.
anyhoo, is AMD the way to go for gaming?

Yes, the [new] 64 bit processors.

augustorm · 06-23-2005, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs

Yes, the [new] 64 bit processors.

Yeah I've been looking at the new 64's but was told that games wouldnt be able to take advantage of it now. If I remember correctly, it had something to do with addressing memory. I dunno but as one person told me..any new amd is better than intel with gaming. So I'll prolly go that route.
Thanks

Hammock Parties · 06-23-2005, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by augustorm

Yeah I've been looking at the new 64's but was told that games wouldnt be able to take advantage of it now. If I remember correctly, it had something to do with addressing memory. I dunno but as one person told me..any new amd is better than intel with gaming. So I'll prolly go that route.
Thanks

You should also look into upgrading to Windows XP Pro (Corporate Edition).

AeroSquid · 06-23-2005, 08:10 PM

AMD and Intel both stand on the threshold of Dual Core madness

By this time next year a single core chip will be hard to find outside a notebook or the very highest end gaming pc. As of right now today AMD is far superior to Intel in just about every way. AMD's architecture enables them to scale with less power (heat) than Intel's current P4 which is nearing the end of it's life span. If you want a gaming rig that cannot be touched a San Diego core FX-55 is the chip for you. If you want a multi tasking machine without peer the Athlon 64X2 is the way to go. Of course both of those are very expensive lol. If you want to step into it on the cheap-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535

Personally I have bought my last single core processor. By this fall I'm hoping prices are down to a reasonable level. just so i don't sound like a complete AMD fanboy, Intel will give AMD all it can handle in the next year or so, they have a hotrod with that Dothan core just not enough support for it in the desktop market yet, motherboard wise... that will soon change as rumors of SLI and Crossfire boards coming soon to an Intel chip near you hehe.

06-23-2005, 02:09 PM
augustorm Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix Casino cash: $10004900	stumped Hey peeps, I'm having some probs with one of my machines. One day I pulled a memory board out to compare to one that a friend had given me. I saw that they were not the same so I put mine back in and gave the other one back to my friend telling him that I could not use it with my MB. I go to boot my machine and everything looked normal...everything until windows tried to load....just when I think I am going to get the Wallpaper and my network logon, the machine just shuts down. No error msg, nothing, it is as if I myself had chose the shutdown option. So, I've been troubleshooting for about two weeks now and finally I see a error msg during the autoexec.bat screen that says: "Memory manager not found". and it then it refers to EMM386. The thing runs in safe mode all day long....but when i choose normal boot, it shuts itself down. I have reinstalled windows. I have not reformatted yet. Maybe its just time for a better machine. I have wanted to see for myself if amd processors are better for game play. This is my game machine that is having the probs. So, think it could be perhaps a virus doing this or perhaps my powersupply. I just dont get it.
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06-23-2005, 02:21 PM	#2
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	Wow..EMM386. Its been awhile since i've heard that one. __________________ http://www.goemaw.com
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06-23-2005, 03:05 PM	#4
AeroSquid we are 138 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: K.C. Casino cash: $9999900	reseat that ram... i'll bet you didn't get it back in good. You might spray it with some contact cleaner (or rub it with a rubber eraser lol)
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06-23-2005, 04:27 PM	#5
augustorm Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah I'm for real and the machine is a pent III 900. Thats not so old. I have no idea why i got the error of the mem manager. Thats why im stumped. I have reseated the ram twice and the ram reports during the post sequence. I dunno. So. next question...do amd processors jive better with gaming and why? Okay..that was two questions.
Posts: 7

06-23-2005, 04:37 PM	#6
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	Are you running Windows 98? __________________ http://www.goemaw.com
Posts: 47,020

06-23-2005, 05:11 PM	#11
augustorm Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix Casino cash: $10004900	lol, I'm thinking you were talking os's...not processors. anyhoo, is AMD the way to go for gaming?
Posts: 7

06-23-2005, 08:10 PM	#15
AeroSquid we are 138 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: K.C. Casino cash: $9999900	AMD and Intel both stand on the threshold of Dual Core madness By this time next year a single core chip will be hard to find outside a notebook or the very highest end gaming pc. As of right now today AMD is far superior to Intel in just about every way. AMD's architecture enables them to scale with less power (heat) than Intel's current P4 which is nearing the end of it's life span. If you want a gaming rig that cannot be touched a San Diego core FX-55 is the chip for you. If you want a multi tasking machine without peer the Athlon 64X2 is the way to go. Of course both of those are very expensive lol. If you want to step into it on the cheap- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535 Personally I have bought my last single core processor. By this fall I'm hoping prices are down to a reasonable level. just so i don't sound like a complete AMD fanboy, Intel will give AMD all it can handle in the next year or so, they have a hotrod with that Dothan core just not enough support for it in the desktop market yet, motherboard wise... that will soon change as rumors of SLI and Crossfire boards coming soon to an Intel chip near you hehe.
Posts: 1,156