Hot take: Veach should draft a DT in the first 2 rds

[RunKC]

This is the best DT class in years. DT and RB are easily the best positions in this draft and we should capitalize on them.

Derrick Harmon
Walter Nolen
Darius Alexander
TJ Sanders
Josh Farmer
Ty Robinson
Omar Norman-Lott

This isn’t even counting a lot of other talented guys that I don’t have listed here like Tyleik Williams or Alfred Collins. Hell there’s guys in rd 3 and 4 that I like too. Vernon Broughton, Shemar Turner or CJ West.

**** me. Might just have to double the **** up gents

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Bowser

That's why I feel getting Omenihu back on the roster is kind of a big deal. Not that we shouldn't look for and draft one of those guys, I just feel Omenihu's ability to play up and down the line is overlooked.

Depends on the money he’s wanting.

Darius Alexander from Toledo offers you basically the exact same thing on a much cheaper contract. Granted, it’s gonna cost one of those first two picks.

[Couch-Potato]

Wharton > Omenihu IMO

[Dunerdr]

This is completely reeruned unless Brett Veach does it then it’s brilliant.

[Chris Meck]

I guess I misread the OP.

I thought it was saying to take TWO DT's in the first two rounds. I don't know about THAT, but I have been totally zeroed in one ONE DT in the first two rounds. And usually a DE in the other.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I guess I misread the OP.

I thought it was saying to take TWO DT's in the first two rounds. I don't know about THAT, but I have been totally zeroed in one ONE DT in the first two rounds. And usually a DE in the other.

That is exactly what I thought tbh.

[DJ's left nut]

I stand by the idea that we should take a DE and DT in the first 4 picks and honestly I'm pretty sure I want to see us do it in the first TWO.

But we'll see how the board shakes out. Likely to be some real value at CB in there as well. Might be some at TE. Should be at IOL but it would seem we're full up there.

And yeah, developmental OT can be on the table on day 2 as well.

But I really think there's an excellent chance that the BPA for those first two pick is gonna be on the DL.

If we end up with 2 DL, a CB, another developmental OT and a RB with our first 5 picks, I feel like I'll be a pretty happy camper.

But I just don't see this team suddenly deciding that DT is a high value proposition in the draft.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

But I just don't see this team suddenly deciding that DT is a high value proposition in the draft.

How much of that is just the team relying on Jones for the last several years though?

It didn’t seem like Veach wanted to draft LBs until he took Gay, Bolton, and Chenal in consecutive drafts.

We also didn’t think he’d draft CBs early, but then took McDuffie and 3 more in the same draft.

With such a strong DL class and Jones with just a couple years left, this seems like the stars are aligning.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

How much of that is just the team relying on Jones for the last several years though?

It didn’t seem like Veach wanted to draft LBs until he took Gay, Bolton, and Chenal in consecutive drafts.

We also didn’t think he’d draft CBs early, but then took McDuffie and 3 more in the same draft.

With such a strong DL class and Jones with just a couple years left, this seems like the stars are aligning.

Remember how good the pass rush looked against Pittsburgh without Jones?

I think it's because they changed their pass rush plan. And ultimately I don't think Spags would have a problem doing it again. Rather than use the ends to hold some contain and allow Jones to try to split/crush the pocket, they pivoted to a more 'conventional' form of pass rush with the DTs holding the line and the DEs getting after it.

I see it as similar to the idea of 'replacing' Kelce -- they just won't. They'll change the offense to work through its WRs instead of its TE.

I could very easily see the Chiefs, as Jones ages out, simply changing the nature of their pass rush.

But this draft could say a lot there. If they pass on a 1st/2nd day DT yet again, that tells me that their plan for life after Chris Jones is just not going to go through the interior pass rush.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Remember how good the pass rush looked against Pittsburgh without Jones?

I think it's because they changed their pass rush plan. And ultimately I don't think Spags would have a problem doing it again. Rather than use the ends to hold some contain and allow Jones to try to split/crush the pocket, they pivoted to a more 'conventional' form of pass rush with the DTs holding the line and the DEs getting after it.

I see it as similar to the idea of 'replacing' Kelce -- they just won't. They'll change the offense to work through its WRs instead of its TE.

I could very easily see the Chiefs, as Jones ages out, simply changing the nature of their pass rush.

But this draft could say a lot there. If they pass on a 1st/2nd day DT yet again, that tells me that their plan for life after Chris Jones is just not going to go through the interior pass rush.

Chiefs just got the DB they needed, so the real pressing needs are basically taken care of.

Aside from DL and RB, of course.

They have a great opportunity to load up the DL and add a dynamic back. They need to do it.

And none of that stops them from taking an OL prospect or pass catcher who falls to them as BPA.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I stand by the idea that we should take a DE and DT in the first 4 picks and honestly I'm pretty sure I want to see us do it in the first TWO.

But we'll see how the board shakes out. Likely to be some real value at CB in there as well. Might be some at TE. Should be at IOL but it would seem we're full up there.

And yeah, developmental OT can be on the table on day 2 as well.

But I really think there's an excellent chance that the BPA for those first two pick is gonna be on the DL.

If we end up with 2 DL, a CB, another developmental OT and a RB with our first 5 picks, I feel like I'll be a pretty happy camper.

But I just don't see this team suddenly deciding that DT is a high value proposition in the draft.

I am extremely confident today that our 1st rd pick is gonna be a DL. And I don’t think they care that people know bc there’s just so ****ing many of them that one should be there.

Said this in another thread, but I’m also becoming more confident that 63 or 66 (or a trade up from 63) is gonna be for a weapon, most likely a RB.

The 66th pick would be so so good to add another DL though. The value there is gonna be really good.