The Good, the Bad and the Ugly of the first two games - Page 2

donkhater · 09-17-2007, 10:12 AM

Team-wise:
The Good: The defense, clearly. They've given up 10 pts in each of the first two games (two FGs were on the special teams IMO) and are currently 8th in total defense (may move up after tonight's game).

Only giving up 3.6 yards per rush (T-9) against two pretty good (not great) running teams, on the road and playing from behind.

Giving up 6.9 yer pass (16th). Not great, but not that bad.

7 sacks (T-3) and 5 turnovers.

We get a top DE back and finally play a home game. Things are looking pretty good. Until.....

The Bad:Special teams

50% FG, fumble in opponent territory, big returns, 1 for TD. The only saving grace is that they've probably faced the two most dangerous return teams in the league. Definately contributed to KC's first two losses.

The Ugly:The offense.

The play calling is head scratching at times. Overall the game plan is pretty sound given who is behind center, but in certain situations you have to wonder if the coaches are watching the same game the rest of us are.

Total offense: 255 yd/game (28th)
Rush: 71 yd/game (27th) Unacceptable. Although getting behind will make running tougher. KC is averaging 3.5 yards/rush (23rd)
Pass: 199 yd/game (24th) (This surprised the heck out of me. I could not believe there are 8 teams worse than KC passing the ball.)
TO: 5 (3 picks, 2 fumbles). Unacceptable. This is the reason Huard was chosen to start. I reckon Herm will give him one more game (at home) to clean up his act. If he doesn't, then there is no excuse not to start Croyle. NONE.

Individually:
The Good:
Linebackers--All active and blitzing well.
Page--Has been around the ball and doesn't make many mistakes.
Bowe and Parker--Better than most expected going into the season. Both deserve more opportunities to help the team.
LJ--He's running very hard and you can tell he cares enough to speak out. The line and game situations aren't helping him much.

The Bad:
Pollard--good aggressive player, but seems to have poor ball/recognition skills. Hopefully he'll come around. Certainly has more upside than Wesley at this point.
Kris Wilson--Made one good play when he was wide open. Other than that, he was on pace to have a 90-catch, 90-yard season.
Offensive line--They've held up better than expected, but they are not opening holes for LJ (likely due to 9 in the box) and this team needs them to be stellar.

The Ugly:
Huard--He is what he is and it ain't good. Croyle didn't win the job in camp, but he still looked better than Huard. 5.6 yards per pass attempt, 1:3 TD/INT ratio.
Eddie Drummond--fumbles a punt and then overruns Hester on his TD return. Seems like a good cover guy on punt teams, but hasn't done much to get excited about yet. If he hadn't fumbled he may not even be on this list. But any veteran that is playing ahead of young talent will get called out for making errors like that (see Huard, Damon).

Special catagory--Coyote Ugly:
Herm Edwards--Personnel decisions aside (which are really CP's fault IMO), he his a horrid decision maker. 3rd and 1 at the 16, down 2 scores and you pass, yet 3 and forever you run? Every time? He bashed the previous regime for scoring to fast and didn't give the defense enough time to rest. How do 3 and outs compare to that, Herm? You punt the ball with 4 minutes to go and down 2 scores. WHAT???? GO for it early in the game. Send a message you aren't scared!!!!!
The game plans are somewhat sound, but his situational game day execution is pathetic.

Nightfyre · 09-17-2007, 02:23 PM

Anyone else think Schottenheimer would make a good GM? I would just pray his curse only applied when he coached.

**the Talking Can** · 09-17-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkhater

This team is a LT, QB and head coach with balls from being very competitive.

My plan:
Start Croyle, take your lumps, fire Herm, draft a left tackle, hire Bill Cowher

I would vote for you, if you ran for something.

donkhater · 09-17-2007, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

I would vote for you, if you ran for something.

Well, here is my fantasy team:

QB: Kitna, Leinart

RB: Tomlinson, T. Jones, M. Lynch, M. Turner, S. Young

WR: T. Owens, S. Smith, S. Holmes

TE: Dallas Clark, Alge Crumpler

K: J. Reed (although I drop and pickup kickers based on schedule)

Def: Chicago

Looks pretty tough, but I'm 0-2. Ran up against 2 teams that got career days from their guys and lost by a combined 2 points. So I ain't batting any better than Carl.

**HemiEd** · 09-17-2007, 04:33 PM

Do we even have a special teams coach? Who? Never ****ing heard of him.

Mecca · 09-17-2007, 04:40 PM

Our special teams are just awful....

Houston isn't a "great return team" or dangerous, Chicago is. It's gonna happen every week because for several years now our special teams have been ass.

aturnis · 09-17-2007, 05:03 PM

As far as special teams are concerned. I think it would help loads just to activate Boomer, he has made a living on special teams, he's a real head-hunter, something this team could use.

Phinisee would have been a much better choice for return man. He's young with nothing but and upside and could POSSIBLY even contribute someday elsewhere on the field. Not only do I think he could be a better return man, but a better coverage man.

Between having Phinisee and Boomer on coverage, it would improve that facet of the game a lot.

KCTitus · 09-17-2007, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Anyone else think Schottenheimer would make a good GM? I would just pray his curse only applied when he coached.

We gotta taste of that in 1998...then we got to witness it again in 2001 in DC. No thanks...unless you meant Kurt or Brian...I think the jury's still out on them.

Mecca · 09-17-2007, 05:46 PM

Our special teams is mostly coaching, there's a reason they've been crap for years...

No player is gonna change that.

09-17-2007, 10:12 AM
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	The Good, the Bad and the Ugly of the first two games Team-wise: The Good: The defense, clearly. They've given up 10 pts in each of the first two games (two FGs were on the special teams IMO) and are currently 8th in total defense (may move up after tonight's game). Only giving up 3.6 yards per rush (T-9) against two pretty good (not great) running teams, on the road and playing from behind. Giving up 6.9 yer pass (16th). Not great, but not that bad. 7 sacks (T-3) and 5 turnovers. We get a top DE back and finally play a home game. Things are looking pretty good. Until..... The Bad:Special teams 50% FG, fumble in opponent territory, big returns, 1 for TD. The only saving grace is that they've probably faced the two most dangerous return teams in the league. Definately contributed to KC's first two losses. The Ugly:The offense. The play calling is head scratching at times. Overall the game plan is pretty sound given who is behind center, but in certain situations you have to wonder if the coaches are watching the same game the rest of us are. Total offense: 255 yd/game (28th) Rush: 71 yd/game (27th) Unacceptable. Although getting behind will make running tougher. KC is averaging 3.5 yards/rush (23rd) Pass: 199 yd/game (24th) (This surprised the heck out of me. I could not believe there are 8 teams worse than KC passing the ball.) TO: 5 (3 picks, 2 fumbles). Unacceptable. This is the reason Huard was chosen to start. I reckon Herm will give him one more game (at home) to clean up his act. If he doesn't, then there is no excuse not to start Croyle. NONE. Individually: The Good: Linebackers--All active and blitzing well. Page--Has been around the ball and doesn't make many mistakes. Bowe and Parker--Better than most expected going into the season. Both deserve more opportunities to help the team. LJ--He's running very hard and you can tell he cares enough to speak out. The line and game situations aren't helping him much. The Bad: Pollard--good aggressive player, but seems to have poor ball/recognition skills. Hopefully he'll come around. Certainly has more upside than Wesley at this point. Kris Wilson--Made one good play when he was wide open. Other than that, he was on pace to have a 90-catch, 90-yard season. Offensive line--They've held up better than expected, but they are not opening holes for LJ (likely due to 9 in the box) and this team needs them to be stellar. The Ugly: Huard--He is what he is and it ain't good. Croyle didn't win the job in camp, but he still looked better than Huard. 5.6 yards per pass attempt, 1:3 TD/INT ratio. Eddie Drummond--fumbles a punt and then overruns Hester on his TD return. Seems like a good cover guy on punt teams, but hasn't done much to get excited about yet. If he hadn't fumbled he may not even be on this list. But any veteran that is playing ahead of young talent will get called out for making errors like that (see Huard, Damon). Special catagory--Coyote Ugly: Herm Edwards--Personnel decisions aside (which are really CP's fault IMO), he his a horrid decision maker. 3rd and 1 at the 16, down 2 scores and you pass, yet 3 and forever you run? Every time? He bashed the previous regime for scoring to fast and didn't give the defense enough time to rest. How do 3 and outs compare to that, Herm? You punt the ball with 4 minutes to go and down 2 scores. WHAT???? GO for it early in the game. Send a message you aren't scared!!!!! The game plans are somewhat sound, but his situational game day execution is pathetic.
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09-17-2007, 05:03 PM	#21
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	As far as special teams are concerned. I think it would help loads just to activate Boomer, he has made a living on special teams, he's a real head-hunter, something this team could use. Phinisee would have been a much better choice for return man. He's young with nothing but and upside and could POSSIBLY even contribute someday elsewhere on the field. Not only do I think he could be a better return man, but a better coverage man. Between having Phinisee and Boomer on coverage, it would improve that facet of the game a lot.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-462950	Our special teams is mostly coaching, there's a reason they've been crap for years... No player is gonna change that.
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