Chiefs to the rescue? - Page 2

CupidStunt · 04-28-2006, 04:12 PM

Chiefs to the rescue?
After entering the offseason as the No. 1 prospect at defensive end, Hali's stock dropped precipitously because of average workouts and fairly mundane 40-yard times. People found out that, although Hali was a good pass rusher, he didn't have as much explosive upfield speed as they had hoped.

However, the Chiefs might provide Hali a safety net, writes ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli. The conventional wisdom is that Kansas City will choose a cornerback in the first round. But in the Cover 2 scheme that coach Herm Edwards will employ, the cornerbacks have to play run support as much as coverage, and the Chiefs feel the cornerback depth in this draft will allow them to get such a player in the second round. The Chiefs have been onto Hali for a while now and he would provide them another pass rusher to team with emerging star Jared Allen.

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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors

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Grain of salt-type post. I personally hope this is not the case.

Eleazar · 04-28-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by go bo

somebody mentioned that most of the top pass rushers in the draft play on the left side, where hicks plays...

I would think so too, because LTs are typically better to protect the QB's blind side, right?

Skyy God · 04-28-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfaninNC

He will never be there at number 20. I agree about the corner though. And the pick of the Kansas City Chiefs is Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn.

N00b.

Miles · 04-28-2006, 05:34 PM

Hali at #20 would not make me happy at all.

shaneo69 · 04-28-2006, 05:56 PM

Besides "only" getting 9 sacks this season, what did Kiwanuka do this year to drop to the bottom of the 1st round, after being called a top 5 pick had he came out last year?

chiefsfaninNC · 04-28-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie

N00b.

Never capitalize the word n00b even when beginning a sentence. What a Dumbass!

CoMoChief · 04-28-2006, 06:04 PM

Ill be pissed if we take Hali over Lawson or Kiwanuka if theyre still there when we pick.

Frankie · 04-28-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfaninNC

He will never be there at number 20. I agree about the corner though. And the pick of the Kansas City Chiefs is Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn.

He's been sliding to late 1st or early 2nd. He still remains my pick. But now I'm starting to get a woody about a trade down scenario to get us Hali late in the 1st and an extra first day pick. I hope there is some truth to Pitts' desire to trade up and get rid of one of their extra picks.

Frankie · 04-28-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles

Hali at #20 would not make me happy at all.

Hali at 32 + a high 3rd or low 2nd should make you a happy camper. It would me.

Frankie · 04-28-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfaninNC

Never capitalize the word n00b even when beginning a sentence. What a Dumbass!

For someone with only 712 posts you are pretty advanced. I shall now knight thee out of n00bness:

"ARISE Sir CF OF NC!"

chiefsfaninNC · 04-29-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

He's been sliding to late 1st or early 2nd. He still remains my pick. But now I'm starting to get a woody about a trade down scenario to get us Hali late in the 1st and an extra first day pick. I hope there is some truth to Pitts' desire to trade up and get rid of one of their extra picks.

With the number 20 pick I don't see us being able to trade down and pick up any picks. Thank God today ends all speculation. And thanks for the knighting. I shall aspire to live up to the knight of n00bness title.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 04-29-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

If we go OT in the first round I will throw a fit of Vladlike proportions.

I wouldn't do that. Your rectum will hurt and your finger will stink.

Coogs · 04-29-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

If he is there and we take him, where does he play? I'd hate to sit Allen down, the guy is a sack machine. And I don't see them replacing Hicks either. The guy couldn't earn a starting spot on most teams, but it's like he's got Tenure here and doesn't have to worry about his position.

I like Herms plan. Pass rusher in the first. Cover two type CB in the 2nd. Cedric Griffin from Texas would be nice.

I take Lawson, and move Allen to the LDE spot. Follow the lead of the Bears defense. Two smaller, fast DE's to force the action. This could help our DT play considerably too!

As long as the Chiefs hang their hat on Hicks as the starter at DE, our defense will not be an elite unit.

Frankie · 04-29-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I wouldn't do that. Your rectum will hurt and your finger will stink.

How do you know that HF?

Herzig · 04-29-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Hali at 32 + a high 3rd or low 2nd should make you a happy camper. It would me.

Agreed.

farmerchief · 04-29-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

As long as the Chiefs hang their hat on Hicks as the starter at DE, our defense will not be an elite unit.

I agree! Hicks should only be used to rotate in and out, and give the starting DE's a breather now and then! Let a Rookie line up opposite of Allen.

04-28-2006, 04:12 PM
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $-646668	Chiefs to the rescue? Chiefs to the rescue? After entering the offseason as the No. 1 prospect at defensive end, Hali's stock dropped precipitously because of average workouts and fairly mundane 40-yard times. People found out that, although Hali was a good pass rusher, he didn't have as much explosive upfield speed as they had hoped. However, the Chiefs might provide Hali a safety net, writes ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli. The conventional wisdom is that Kansas City will choose a cornerback in the first round. But in the Cover 2 scheme that coach Herm Edwards will employ, the cornerbacks have to play run support as much as coverage, and the Chiefs feel the cornerback depth in this draft will allow them to get such a player in the second round. The Chiefs have been onto Hali for a while now and he would provide them another pass rusher to team with emerging star Jared Allen. ------------------ http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors ------------------ Grain of salt-type post. I personally hope this is not the case.
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