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I would be imagine being given a chance to actually beat Mahomes/Reid counteracts that a bit.
Yeah...the allure of having no shot of ever winning a ring is huge.
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Nah I said the night he was drafted that Nix’s high floor and Payton’s good coaching will make this kid good but not great.

What makes me nervous about the Broncos is that they are drafting well. Meinerz, Bonitto, Cooper, Nix. The 3rd rd pick Ellis has 3 straight games with a sack.

They are making good picks and we have not overall the last 2 drafts.
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Half of Mahomes' INTs this year were bad luck. Balls tipped up by a fatty, receiver falling down, etc. His INT rate was bound to come down, which it usually does late in the year anyway.


That's true, but some were bad decisions or just off-target/off-line. And those are things he needs to clean up, obviously, if he's going to lead us to another SB.
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Nah I said the night he was drafted that Nix’s high floor and Payton’s good coaching will make this kid good but not great.

What makes me nervous about the Broncos is that they are drafting well. Meinerz, Bonitto, Cooper, Nix. The 3rd rd pick Ellis has 3 straight games with a sack.

They are making good picks and we have not overall the last 2 drafts.
I'll have to see another season of them before that assessment. They have not performed well against good teams...beat bad/injured ones. Usually there is one "break out' performance against a quality opponent...when a team is on the "come ups". That hasnt happened so far...which is why I'm labeling them a product of a perfect storm until proven otherwise.

The 24 Chargers are in that category too...their only claim to fame is beating the Donks. They've lost to the Steelers, Ravens and Chiefs.

If Wison were still on the Donks...they likely would be in a similar position this year. If they passed on Nix and had taken Bowers...probably better. Nix has already matched Wilson's int total at 8...and is 8 TDs behind with four games left.

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Nah I said the night he was drafted that Nix’s high floor and Payton’s good coaching will make this kid good but not great.

What makes me nervous about the Broncos is that they are drafting well. Meinerz, Bonitto, Cooper, Nix. The 3rd rd pick Ellis has 3 straight games with a sack.

They are making good picks and we have not overall the last 2 drafts.
Picking that low will do that. Maybe the Chiefs should just go 8-9 for a few seasons to get them saweet draft picks.
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I think DEN will probably make the playoffs, but I also think they're probably a one-and-done team; it's just too early, as several have said already.

One of the things that was interesting about last night was that Payton trusted Nix enough to throw deep from his own EZ. And several other times he allowed Nix to test the CLE secondary in spots like 3rd and long, when most HCs would probably have had him either handoff on a draw or throw some kind of screen. Something safe. I think that's telling about where Nix really is in his development. And it's also interesting that Nix has thrown a 14/4 TD-INT ratio over his last 8 games.
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Picking that low will do that. Maybe the Chiefs should just go 8-9 for a few seasons to get them saweet draft picks.
Meinerz-3rd rd
Bonitto-2nd rd
Ellis-3rd rd
Cooper-7th rd

McMillan kid who picked off Winston was undrafted. The white Iowa corner they missed badly last night was a 3rd rd pick. Also getting something from Franklin and Vele drafted in the 4th and 7th.

Nix is the only one I listed drafted in the first rd
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Meinerz-3rd rd
Bonitto-2nd rd
Ellis-3rd rd
Cooper-7th rd

McMillan kid who picked off Winston was undrafted. The white Iowa corner they missed badly last night was a 3rd rd pick. Also getting something from Franklin and Vele drafted in the 4th and 7th.

Nix is the only one I listed drafted in the first rd
Bonitto was a polarizing guy on the draft forum but someone that a lot of folks really liked as a pass rush specialist. I know I wanted him over Cook in that draft.

The Broncos, annoyingly, have made some decent picks of late.
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Nix has thrown a 14/4 TD-INT ratio over his last 8 games.
As I posted earlier...all of Nix's int have been when he's trailing. That's a bit of a red flag...especially if a good team can pin it's ears back.

We'll see how that trend plays out in his sophomore season...
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