*** Official SNF Chargers vs Bengals Thread ***

[wazu]

Chargers -1.5
O/U - 48

Go Bengals!

[Best22]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

What makes someone a franchise QB? Herbert has choked every big game he’s ever played and was missing easy throws the entire 2nd half of that one. If the Bengals weren’t one of the worst clutch teams in the league themselves, they drop that game from a 21 point lead.

They’re a fraud and will be exposed by the first good team they play.

Franchise QB doesn’t mean clutch. Phillip Rivers was a huge choker but was absolutely a franchise QB

[wazu]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Herbert is 16th in QBR this season, he hasn’t hit any new level, his team has run up a good record against a bunch of shit teams

You can only beat who you play. Their 3 losses were to the Chiefs (17-10), Steelers (20-10), and Cardinals (17-15). All three teams are leading their respective divisions. And this is an all-new coaching staff. New playbooks on offense and defense. Mostly new skill position players.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Best22

Franchise QB doesn’t mean clutch. Phillip Rivers was a huge choker but was absolutely a franchise QB

Is Daniel Jones a franchise QB too

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by wazu

You can only beat who you play. Their 3 losses were to the Chiefs (17-10), Steelers (20-10), and Cardinals (17-15). All three teams are leading their respective divisions. And this is an all-new coaching staff. New playbooks on offense and defense. Mostly new skill position players.

And would have blown a 21 point lead to the woeful Bengals if they had a kicker who could make a FG

[Best22]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Is Daniel Jones a franchise QB too

Herbert is better than Jones

Daniel Jones and Daboll are both frauds

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

The Chiefs will get their bye going into the playoffs either way.

Either they hold off Buffalo for the one seed or they end up locked into the #2 seed and Andy rests starters and injured players Week 18 against Denver.

Guaranteed one of those two will happen.

That’s the hope but one of those outcomes isn’t guaranteed. Worst case scenario is it is within one game going into the Denver game and we have to play everyone.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Best22

Herbert is better than Jones

Daniel Jones and Daboll are both frauds

I know but I’m wondering how far one can extend the definition of “franchise QB”

Does Trevor Lawrence count too

[Best22]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I know but I’m wondering how far one can extend the definition of “franchise QB”

Does Trevor Lawrence count too

Lawrence is about as low as I’d go. I used to think he kinda sucked, but now I’m changing my mind. I kind of want to see him in a functional franchise. The Jaguars are a traveling circus at this point

[wazu]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I know but I’m wondering how far one can extend the definition of “franchise QB”

Does Trevor Lawrence count too

No. He's a fraud and I'm guessing Jags already regret giving him that payday.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I know but I’m wondering how far one can extend the definition of “franchise QB”

Does Trevor Lawrence count too

A franchise QB is no serious fan of the team is saying we would be better off going back to the draft and taking our chances.

The Chargers would NOT be better off going back to the draft.

The Jags, they may be getting there with Trevor Lawrence.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

A franchise QB is no serious fan of the team is saying we would be better off going back to the draft and taking our chances.

This is a pretty great definition.

[Chief Pagan]

Part of the problem is that even mediocre QBs are getting paid top dollar after their rookie contracts. If an average QB after his rookie contract was paid like that, things wouldn't look so silly.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Part of the problem is that even mediocre QBs are getting paid top dollar after their rookie contracts. If an average QB after his rookie contract was paid like that, things wouldn't look so silly.

That's a Darwin Award problem for NFL teams, though. It used to be that rookie QBs got gigantic contracts as if they were basically free agents. Now, teams have at least some body of NFL work to review before they offer the big contract.