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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
Some success.
Great.
And what was the downfall again? Not having a successor for an already non-elite QB?
Like I said, Rex Grossman appeared in a SB.
Marc Bulger put up numbers.
That doesn't make them great QB's.
Someone trying to sell me on a 65 year old Mike Holmgren - who was an absolute failure in Cleveland - using Matt Hasselbeck as some sort of evidence?
Awesome.
**** it, he coached Brett Favre and Steve Young.
So did Steve Mariucci, and I don't see anyone sucking his dick.
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Jfc. You've gone off the rails. Holmgren coached young at BYU and for most of his career. Holmgren made young. Holmgren rejected qb trades because he stuck by Brett favre. Look, you're a smart guy but you trying to discredit holmgrens qb accomplishments is borderline idiotic. Let me repeat. He coached two hall of fame qbs who were both considered nobodies in the draft.
And your criticism of his run in Seattle is comical. He left the game around the same time as cowher. They met in the same super bowl and Seattle played terrific in that super bowl. Seattle was a very successful playoff team almost every year holmgren was coach. His record is more impressive than cowhers. He took two teams he built from scratch to a super bowl. He coordinated the super power 49ers. He's coached three hall of fame qbs. He's developed two of them.
He isn't a good gm. So what. He wasnt on the field coaching players, was he.