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Old 08-09-2012, 11:13 AM   #60
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Originally Posted by Laz View Post
Haley was gunther cunningham from day 1

Weis saved his ass in 2010 by calming shit down on offense but Haley couldn't handle success if it wasn't him on the controls.

Haley and Gunther are great at screaming and cheerleading but need someone to hold their hands when it comes to the real decisions.

Gunther had success with Shottenheimer(defense)
Haley had success with Whisenhunt(offense)

both had HC's on the same side of the ball that they were running. Neither actually installed/designed the systems they ran.

Haley is still young and might learn
Completely disagree. Haley boldly implemented a terrific conditioning program -- despite the fiasco that was last offseason, our players were extremely well disciplined, very well coached, always in great shape, and players were motivated to become better players. That's different from gun, who screamed but still pumps out soft football players. From a player development standpoint, Haley was phenomenal.

As for the offense, I don't know. I also dont think he was given a fair chance. We talk all year long about how critical the qb is, yet we expect our coach to pump out a great offense with a bad qb. Doesn't make sense. When Haley called plays and jamaal Charles was the main rb in 2009, the offense didn't look bad. In 2011,we didn't get much chance to see that. So I don't know that we know enough to make that judgment. We are basically basing his entire track record off his rookie season and a third season with a lousy offensive coordinator, a 3rd string running back, and a bottom of the barrel starting qb.
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