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Old 09-16-2011, 06:50 PM   #74
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Carl barely deserves any credit. That guy is the reason this team fell into the shitter. Nobody's saying anything about Herm deserving credit. We're talking about the Herm era.

But if we're talking credit, Kuharich should get credit for the personnel, and Herm should get credit for forcing the youth movement.

And while Herm doesn't deserve 100% credit for draft picks made during that era, he definitely deserves some. Coaches are very involved with the personnel process. Especially given that Kuharich and Herm were mostly on the same page.

Haley's a far better coach. But I've said for years and years that Herm got a lot of shit he didn't deserve, but that he was easily the best guy to start the process of turning this team around.


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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale View Post
He didn't control personnel. I have no idea why Chiefs fans think he had 100% control over personnel but he didn't.

Yes, we had talent that had been acquired by the staff. Pretty much all of them save Flowers were underachievers. That's what coaches do.

Herm was our coach, not our GM. I was really clear about this.

All I'm getting out of this is that you think Carl is a better GM than Pioli, but want to credit Herm instead.

Herm didn't coach these players up. The only player he drafted all by himself was Carr. That was his birthday pick.

ALSO, most of those players were acquired in the 3rd year. We don't even fully know what we've gotten from the 2011 draft yet.

Seriously... **** Herman Edwards.
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