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Originally Posted by CoMoChief
I don't necessarily have "doubts" about Pioli.
What I dont know and what we all dont know is whether he can do in KC what he did in NE, there are many factors on why NE is good and has been good for almost the last decade. First and most important being they lucked out and found a late round gem which happened to turn into a HOF QB.
That hardly ever happens. And you can bet NE didn't draft Brady in the 6th rd thinking that he would soon one day replace Drew Bledsoe as the starter for many years to come.
We don't know what went on in their draft room. We dont know really who had more say in player personnel.
Really the only assumption we are making is that The Pats had good drafts and were Super good during the time Pioli was their GM, so that must mean Pioli can do the same in KC.
We have no way in knowing that. ATL hired Rich McKay, at the time was NFL's best GM because of how he turned the Buccs into SB champs and competitive. Rich McKay didn't do anything but draft the NFL's most exciting player ever which lead eventually to a total franchise breakdown.
There are many holes on this team before we can even be called a mediocre team. What happens if Pioli comes in and fires Herm and hires a new coach that is a 3-4 guy? we don't have 3-4 personnel. That alone would set us back for 3-4 years. Waters and TonyG are all gone by that time so those are 2 huge holes that we have to address.
I do know one thing. Bill Belehick is a great coach. And he coaches the games, not Pioli. He has a say in what kinda players he wants because he know what he needs in order to succeed. Something Herm doesn't know because Herm is reeruned and doesn't know why hes even coaching in the NFL other than he's black.
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You raise very valid points. I can clarify a few items.
1. I'd be surprised if you guys DIDN'T switch to 3-4. BB clearly believes in flexibility between 34 and 43, but that 3-4 as the base is superior. And if you look at the last 10 years and who has won most of the Super Bowls, I think you can see why. Ravens, Patriots and STeelers are all 3-4 teams, and they have 5 of the last 8 Super Bowl victories between them, and a few appearances (that they lost) in addition. Pats and Chargers have given Peyton the most fits over that timespan -- both are 3-4 teams.
2. BB and SP had shared decision-making in the draft room. BB has stated, repeatedly, that both had veto power. If EITHER one of them didn't like a player enough, the player would be off their board.
3. You should expect Pioli to get a new coach, and to try to work the same mind-meld with him that BB had with him. The Pats think its' critical that the scouting and coaching staffs be VERY closely intertwined. The scouts have to pick players that the coaches can use in THEIR system. They have repeatedly said that they pass on players that might be great players because those players aren't right for THEIR system.