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Originally Posted by TwistedChief
I asked for the link and you shared it. And I appreciated that and legitimately went through the study and read a good portion of it. Hand to god.
But I understand statistics and sample sizes too. And I don't think that a study like that is entirely representative of the situation of this player as the Chiefs are evaluating him (I've already shared why that's the case earlier).
Do you really think the Chiefs aren't aware of this study? Has Andy Reid never come across it? And to be clear, this is an Andy Reid decision more than anyone else's.
We're not talking about evaluating a football player. We're not even really talking about an evaluation of the medicals.
We're talking about the process of Andy Reid and Brett Veach and whether they're foolhardy gunslingers caked in hubris who have a history of these longshot gambles. Or whether they have had as much success building a team as any other in the NFL. And whether they are capable of balancing the overall historicals around this injury, the Simmons-specific case, and the risk/reward.
I think they are and am fine with the pick regardless of the outcome.
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To pin this - I'm going to finish expressing my concerns/clarifying my position in response to you, because I respect you and the counterpoint you present is the one we all have to pin our hopes upon now...
No, I don't think the Chiefs are unaware of the data. I'm sure they know. I'm sure they also know that Buckhalter was productive when he got back but not as fast or explosive as he was before the injury. I'm sure they know that has been the case for guys who have been able to "make it back."
Maybe they're less concerned about it because they think if he's at 90 percent of the power and explosion in this leg, he's strong enough in the upper body to get by.
Maybe they're less concerned because they've seen him do more than squat 225 pounds, and see him do work that indicates he is back to the level of strength and power transfer he had before the tear.
Maybe.
It's also possible that things look as good as they possibly can right now, and they are hoping/projecting that he gets back to the level of strength and flexibility and torque in that knee/leg he had before, and they decided that's good enough (this is kind of what I think it is).
It's a gamble. A big one. Yes, the upside is large, too. It's not what I would have done, but I'm going to hope that it all works out because that's what is best for my team.
People can come back in this thread in two or three years if it has all worked out and try to dunk on me (or crow, or DJ) if they want. That's fine.
If he is back to what he was before and returns to the trajectory he was on, Simmons is probably a Pro Bowl level player or better at that point, and they've probably won at least one more Super Bowl, so I won't give a **** about people trying to dunk on me.
The logic and thought process that led my concerns is sound, and I'm going to stick with it.
Also, I'll close with:
Hope you know how much I respect you and appreciate our ability to have a logical discussion about this. It rocks and is one of the best things about this place (even when low-effort smooth brains who like hurricanes make it hard).