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Old 04-18-2025, 12:15 PM   #93
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Originally Posted by staylor26 View Post
Sorry man, but I jsut think you're seeing what you want to see. We can agree to disagree but here's a video for anybody that would like to see 2016 Jimmy Graham:

https://youtu.be/DKrRdgFOVmQ?si=vSZdbXb5SX5lu9uR
We can agree to disagree. He didn't get up and high point the ball the same way (even in that highlight clip, he is not dominating by getting ABOVE guys the way he did before the injury. Size and ball placement), he didn't run away from LB like he did before the injury.

And even if he WAS the same in 2016 as he was before the injury... (1) That's the best example you can find and (2) it was short-lived.

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If he didn’t have the injury what would you think? Bc my God his size, strength, foot quickness and hand usage is really good. His footwork and hands make Wanya and Kingsley look like a ****ing practice squad player. He’s really ****ing good as a prospect. He’s a good tackle prospect minus the injury. That’s not really debatable.

It’s literally the injury and character concerns, which they may know more than we could think to know. We know Burkholder put him under a microscope so if he clears him, I think they’ll take him if possible. The character concerns are accepted by this franchise. I’d imagine they trust the leadership of the locker room to take him.

I will say this: there’s a big difference between a Tackle and a skill position or DB player. He’s not cutting, running 40+ yards downfield or running the same. 90% of his job is within 10 yards.

Also wonder if medical advances were done on him? Suture anchors are the new thing that Aaron Rodgers had done on his Achilles which greatly helps recovery and prevention of re-injury. I read that that is used for this tendon surgery as well. That might be the case bc **** me that guy looked loose at his pro day. Dude was moving after 5 months post-op and it was nuts.

Listen fellas. If Burkholder clears this kid and Andy Reid feels like he’s his guy, you ****ing do it. I trust Andy here. There is no better draft to do this if our staff really believes in a tackle.

I do not believe in Jaylon Moore long term. Neither do the Chiefs based upon his contract. Josh Simmons scares me. I’ve made no changes in that regard, but if they take him I’d imagine they did an incredible amount of due diligence on him. I’d trust them if they went this way.

They’ve earned that trust.
But he did have the injury. Cannot get away from or around that.

OL knee strength, flexibility, and soundness is still super important to what they do. No, he isn't cutting 40 yards downfield. He's just anchoring and redirecting and fighting for leverage and balance constantly, with combined weights of 600 pounds usually at odds.

If the team takes him, I'll be hopeful that they're right and he's the unicorn, and not LeCharles Bentley or Jack Conklin or JC Jackson or Jarod Mayo or Victor Cruz or Ryan Williams or Cadillac Williams or Lucas Niang or or Andre Roberson or Jeremy Lin or Victor Oladipo or any of the other dudes who were never the same again.

I don't care about past tense with him. Sure, before the injury, he had all the things you reference and was a superior player and prospect to Morris and Suamataiea. But we don't know that he still is (and running around in shorts and a t-shirt in workouts isn't going to prove that he still is, either).
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