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Old 04-10-2025, 11:12 AM   #2644
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My issue with Toub wasn't Moore.

It was that when we weren't allocating 3-4 roster spots to "Toub's guys", the Special Teams units fell to shit for 2 years. It wasn't just dropped punts, it was silly execution errors, coverage lapses and unforced mistakes.

Exactly that kind of things you pay the "Best STs coach in football" to keep from happening. And as it turned out, he sure started looking like Gunther Cunningham -- great when he was guys that are already good, not so much when he has to cover for them and/or MAKE them good.

The ship righted for the most part last season, but he had a couple of pretty shitty years in there and it wasn't just because of Skyy Moore.
I think that’s a big reason why they drafted Chamarri Conner. Josh Williams has been awful on ST’s. Constantly getting penalties. I’m inclined to think that’s on the player, bc Spags wouldn’t even put him on the field bc the kid has a seizure when he’s forced to play any zone coverage. He was constantly in the wrong spot at the wrong time.

I would be hard pressed to find a better ST’s coach than Toub recently. That Chenal XP block was critical in our SB win. He also blocked another one in the playoffs this year. Remigio with multiple good returns. Winning us the Broncos game. Have multiple kickers off the street go 11/12.

Butker alone is worth keeping Toub. One of the 5 biggest reasons we are a dynasty with kick after kick after kick. He’s the 2nd most accurate kicker ever only bc he had a down year due to a leg injury in 2022.

He’s not perfect by any means but people wanting this guy fired are nuts.
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