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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
Absolutely.
I don't think there's no room for them in the league. But this offense with this QB just doesn't need/want them.
I mean even the highlight play that Hopkins made, definitely something of a '**** it' ball, was still a ball placement throw and really good hands by Hopkins to bring it in through traffic.
It wasn't some play where he threw it into double coverage and let Hopkins body off a guy and high point it.
Mahomes just doesn't throw those. He really doesn't even throw them to Kelce.
As you said, he's far more likely to throw it into space and let his guys run to it than he is to throw it to a big body and hope they win at the catch point.
Could a guy like that be handy in the red zone? Sure - but we won't use 'em. We'll keep doing motion to create mis-matches and trying trick plays vs. asking a guy to just win on the boundary with physicality.
It isn't that I don't think they can play - it's that there are styles and body types that we get more use out of.
So a guy who's "fast for a 6'4" receiver" is still middling by standard measurements.
Sammy Watkins is about the prototype for bigger and more physical WRs in this system. Ayomanor is pretty much the outer bound of guys like that who interest me.
Tre Harris? Jayden Higgins? Savion Wiliams? Pat Bryant? Nah -- just not our guys.
Tory Horton is tall but he's fast and doesn't play physical -- he's a different sort. Maybe someone like Theo Wease if he's there in the 7th. But if I'm looking at a guy like Sheppard vs. a guy like Jordan Watkins, give me Watkins 100 times out of 100.
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They did a pretty nice job with Juju in 2022 in that role and he was a bigger guy who wasn’t particularly fast.
I agree that the speed guys who can get open quickly like Isaiah Bond, Jaylin Lane and Jaylen Noel are probably who they want. They just can’t trust Hollywood to stay healthy there. And even still, they need depth badly.
Harold Fannin is really starting to grow on me bc he fits a lot of what we do. He’s really good at YAC, breaking tackles and getting open in the middle of the field. Sure he’s not a deep speed guy, but Wiley is. Think it’s good to have guys with different traits there.
We need guys who can break tackles, get YAC or even just get open badly. Worthy was literally the only guy we had that could do that for the majority of last season. It was painful watching Hopkins, Kelce, Juju and Watson try to get open last year. They’re too old and too slow now. Same with Kareem’s lack of speed at RB.
If I’m Veach I’m absolutely hammering the DL and skill weapons with our first 4 picks. We just can’t keep asking Mahomes to carry a shit offense with guys who are old or can’t make plays.