You are right that they won’t be better as a day 1 starter but that’s why they could be available. Teams like for 1st round picks to contribute immediately. I’m happy to take a guy like Simmons, if he passes the medicals, and hope that he could compete to start by the playoffs. Simmons is more talented than Moore, easily. And you’re right, Conerly will probably take a year to beat out Moore but if Moore goes down, Conerly can handle the speed rush better than Moore right now. Conerly can move. He uses his hands well. Watch him against Abdul carter at penn state and you can tell he can be a long term LT. You’d have to help conerly with strong edge rushers, no doubt. But he can play and could be a long term solution.
As far as Kingsley, we have a hole at LG and a good G makes about $20M per year. That’s good value for a 3rd round pick. We need Kingsley to be successful at G.we are not out on Kingsley at LT. We are just reading what the chiefs brass appears to be signaling in that we need a LG and Kingsley played well against good competition at LG. So, we could use another offensive tackle for competition, depth and development. The question becomes, when do you take a LT prospect? Why not take a LT in the first and fill these other needs later? This LT class is not deep and the dline is deep. RB is deep. Taking a LT i. The first just fits when you look at the whole picture. We don’t need to reach for one but if they think that conerly or Simmons could be a long term answer and they are available around 25 and we can up 6 or 7 spots with some pick swaps and maybe give up a third with getting some later round picks back, I’d make the move. And we saw last year that LT projects like Mims (selected 18, bengals) and Fautanu (selected 20, Steelers) have demonstrated that project LTs with traits are worth a pick around 20. Mims and Fautana don’t even play that much. Those picks weren’t necessarily a big need for those teams but they took them bc of their value. That’s good positional value for us and we have a need. Having a potential LTOTF is that valuable to me and hopefully to the team. Hell, best case scenario is that both the LTOTF and Moore play well and we can trade Moore for picks next year.
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck
But make NO mistake-there is not a day one upgrade LT in this draft at all, more than likely and certainly not where we can reach them. There just isn't. Not Simmons, who may never play meaningful NFL football, not Conerly, who isn't strong enough to anchor but might be after a year. Not Ersery, or Grant, or either of the Texas guys, or Jackson who filled in pretty well for Simmons.
Just...no.
Now, you may feel like it's worth the risk to take the shot; and to that I say, why are you OUT on Kingsley then? Because next year at this time, you're going to be out on one of these kids, too.
I'm not saying we SHOULDN'T take the shot. I'm saying we need to realize what it is we'd actually be doing, and be okay with that.
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