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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho
Hey man. You got there.
I was already there because I'm a draft nerd and have known the state of this draft for OTs for a LONG time.
I mean, I think the OT that is SAFEST is Armand Membou, and he's a 6'3.5" guy who only works at T because he has extraordinarily long arms for his height. And is probably a RT only. And will go way too high for KC's test.
Best-case scenario would be Josh Simmons falling down draft boards and being available in the low 20s, where you could make a deal with the Steelers or Vikings to go get him. That would still have risk, but it's the only first-round, trade-up scenario that I think makes sense for KC.
Other than that, making it a numbers game and having a vet option or two to throw at things sounds like the most logical combination of floor and upside out there.
It's kind of like taking a QB round 1. If a guy that fits and is worth it isn't there or at a pick you can get to, keep band-aiding the position until you can find a real fix that works and is acceptable to your cost ratio.
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Yeah the issue of doing a trade up is you likely have to trade 63 or 66 and probably your 4th to move up that high. Simmons is the only guy in the draft that I’d trade up for and I think he’s going in the top 20 unfortunately.
They need to play Kingsley next year whether it’s at LT or RG. He’s too high of an investment and he’s got the traits you can’t teach. He was talked about as a late 1st rd pick.
He may have struggled but OL rarely have elite size and elite athleticism, especially guys that don’t go I the top 20 picks. Kingsley is very similar in size and athleticism to Tristan Wirfs. Both have the size and athleticism, albeit Kingsley is stronger. Wirfs developed at Iowa which is known for their work with OL while Kingsley went to BYU and their high RPO get rid to the ball quickly offense that didn’t develop him near as well.
Kingsley is gonna be like Fisher. It’s gonna take time if he plays LT. People forget that Fisher wasn’t good until year 4. Donald Stephenson started games at LT in year 3 and people hated it.
I’m not sure people are gonna be patient with Kingsley, but he is still only 22 this coming season. He’s really young. If he hits by the time he’s 23 or 24, that’s a solution for maybe the rest of Mahomes career here.