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Originally Posted by smithandrew051
I was actually telling my buddy that it’s far more likely the Chiefs have LeBron at QB than MJ.
The Tampa loss was probably Mahomes’s 2015 Warriors series.
Last night was probably Mahomes’s 2014 Spurs series.
People will get hung up on the rings. It’s an easy thing to argue about because it’s a simple metric.
The argument that LeBron hasn’t had strong supporting casts is dumb, but he hasn’t had what the Warriors had or some of those Spurs teams had.
This is kinda similar. Every NFC team is some “super team”, but the Chiefs have the better QB. LeBron was always the best player on the court, but those Warriors and Spurs teams were insane.
Some people will be smart and look at what Mahomes takes to the Super Bowl and what he’s up against. Others will be dumb and just compare rings without context.
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LeBron has lost only one Finals series in his career where his team wasn't the statistically superior team, that was the 2011 Mavs Finals series. If you extend that to playoff series, it's probably only three (his losses to Orlando and Boston before moving to Miami arguably met that as well, those Cleveland teams were very good although that was almost entirely due to him). An absolutely incredible track record considering he's played for 22 years and played more playoff games than anyone in history. The only reason that guy isn't unanimously considered the GOAT at this point is because people have mythologized MJ's career to the point where he's untouchable (which is now happening with Tom Brady as well). You simply can't realistically do much more than he has in basketball in these 2+ decades.
Mahomes really only has one such game as well where that was the case (the 2021 AFC Championship playoff game against Cinci, the Chiefs were undeniably better than that team). Both TB and Philly were much better teams than the Chiefs statistically going into those SBs and the results bared out that way. Yesterday was more shocking for the way it happened, but I think everyone sort of knew Philly had the better talent of the two teams. The hope was that Mahomes would be the great equalizer. The Eagles, through their pass rush (which wrecked Thuney, Caliendo and Taylor in particular) and Fangio's scheme (which bottled him up in the collapsing pocket and didn't let him escape on the edges) eliminated that advantage. This won't be the last time Mahomes loses to a superior team in a playoff game, it happens to everyone (including and especially Tom Brady).