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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
Is there an argument that he's been 'better' than Allen, Jackson and Burrow, though?
Unless you're going purely on QB Wins, those guys have all been better than him this year.
The real issue, such as it is, is all the credit Allen got in that mid-season stretch just superseded the fact that he was pretty damn ordinary for the first 1/3 of the season or so. Strictly as a passer, I wouldn't say he's been notably better than Mahomes. So you could argue that the wins should mean enough to put Mahomes ahead of him.
But Allen did beat Mahomes head to head. So it's hard to make W/L a dispositive argument in favor of PM. And honestly to even get to that point you'd have to ignore the 500 yards and 12 touchdowns that Allen has contributed on the ground.
I just don't see much grounds for complaint here. I mean if Stroud got in over him or something I'd be riled up. But I don't think there's a great argument that Burrow, Jackson and Allen haven't been better than Mahomes this season.
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Mahomes lost his top 2 wide receivers and had a dumpster fire for left tackle all season.
He still won the most games of all those quarterbacks. With a defense that everyone agrees regressed from last year.
He did this by putting up the same stats as 2023 with the exception of winning with the most 4th quarter game winning comeback drives this season.