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Old 12-31-2024, 12:11 PM   #6742
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I think it should matter in terms of how much a player elevates their team above and beyond what's expected... not necessarily "what would the team do without him," but were they playing out of their mind.

I think the argument is definitely there for the Ravens still winning 10 or 11 games without Jackson last season or without his 3600 yards passing and 24 passing touchdowns. Hell, he probably has a better case this year given the defense sucks.

I'm kind of torn on Burrow this season, just from their terribly weak wins... yeah, maybe they only win 5 or 6 games without him, but damnit he really elevated his team to beat all those 4-win teams and the Broncos and are still in the playoff hunt....
Totally agree.
It's gotta be a mix of excellent play/stats while also elevating those around him to team success.

Burrow's stats are crazy good, but team success nope.

On the flip side, Mahomes' stats are not great, but him elevating play and resulting team success is off the charts (15-1).
Mahomes isn't even in the MVP convo this year with a 15-1 team. Why?

Burrow shouldn't be either, although he is killing it stats-wise
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