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Old 11-21-2024, 11:05 AM   #163
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Alia ends up more important.

But in Dune she's not.

In Messiah and Children she moves past Chani (for fairly obvious spoilery reasons) but Dune is about ascension of Paul from Paul to Muad'dib. Chani was clearly more critical to that process.

Now should Messiah get made, there's still PLENTY of time to right any wrongs here. It can be done in the first half hour pretty easily. But they had no way to know if this was going to have legs beyond the first book. Hell, they STILL don't. I'm not convinced Messiah (and certainly not Children) translate well to film at all.

I really don't think they should make anymore movies. I don't think they can tell the rest of that story without losing...everyone. By God Emperor, any sense of scale would be completely off the rails. We've gone literally thousands of years into the future and things have...uh...taken a turn to say the least.

I understand trying to make this as "Dune Only" film universe and if that's your intent, Alia really has very little utility.
We'll have to agree to disagree on Alia vs. Chani. Chani may be important to Paul, but not to the story. She kills one idiot Fremen challenger whose name we never know and pops out a baby that gets killed. As a toddler, Alia kills the Baron, talks shit to the emperor and mind****s a reverend mother. Game set match.

And I figure the next movie will go completely off the rails. How do you get SuperChani back to the point where she falls in line with the events of the second book? I guess you can tell me all about it, since I won't personally know. I'll never watch another one of Villeneuve's movies. Hell, I don't even want to ever watch Blade Runner 2049 again.
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