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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff
But how do you get there?
Rodgers had SIX 'one-and-dones' in 11 Playoff appearances! 1-4 NFCCGs, one SB trip.
Not even close.
Unless you want to make the case that statistics are more important than playoff success. Good luck with that.
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We're judging QBs solely by the team's playoff record now?
So Elway wasn't even close to Mahomes' level? And Marino sucked?
Where will he move the goalposts next...
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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff
I reject your 'QB vs QB' test as anything remotely like a valid barometer of Elway's, or anybody's, success. Besides, you can only play next team up, that's how the playoffs work.
I also do not accept your "cheater" label, at least not to the extent it invalidates legitimate game and playoff results. The NFL levied serious fines for the violations, the NFL also legitimized all the SB results, regardless how much you obsessive Broncos haters continue in obsessive disagreement.
As much as I reject your 'QB vs QB' test, here's a list of QBs John vanquished his last two seasons... HEY! Look close! There's TWO Hall-of-Famers on this list - oh boy oh boy!
Mark Brunell
Elvis Grbac
Kordell Stewart
Brett Favre
Dan Marino
Vinnie Testaverde
Chris Chandler
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The same guy who tells us that KC's early success isn't noteworthy because the AFC was the "minor leagues" also rejects the idea that competition matters. Go figure.
Of course, the "minor league" argument makes no sense anyway, seeing as the AFC dominated the Super Bowl in the early years. If there were a minor league period for the AFC, it would obviously be when the AFC lost 15 of 16 SBs, including three Elway beatdowns by an average of 30+ points. But something tells me you won't accept that.
You can't pretend to be the rational voice in the room when all you do is pick and choose whatever fits your argument, with zero consistency from one take to the next.
Of course competition matters. Only a dope would argue otherwise. Facing Allen, Burrow and/or Brady every year is slightly different than facing Kosar, Brister and Tony Eason.