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Originally Posted by rfaulk34
I don't disagree with anything you said. The only point i'm making is that, without the defense from last year and to a lesser extent, the year before, you're not even in a position to win the rings.
No doubt, when given the chance, Pat comes through in the end--which is why i've said before he's the scariest guy with the ball in his hands and a chance to win in the end. And all things being said, no one remembers or wants to talk about specifics after the fact. It's all about did you get the job done or didn't you.
Burrow had a bad oline and no running game in '21. With that, he was about 1 second from wearing a ring if someone...anyone, could have kept Donald off him in less than 2 seconds. He had a bad oline and no running game in '22 against the Chiefs and still had a chance to win at the end. This year the defense is a shit show, he still doesn't have a consistent decent running game, but at least the Oline is better (middle of the pack at best) in passpro.
Excuses are like assholes, they all stink but it's extremely frustrating for me to see how other teams win rings and make dynasties while i have to sit here and watch the Bengals **** up a good thing time after time (3 x in the SB) by their very own doing by not knowing, being able to, or simply being too stubborn in wanting to do it their way.
You guys can keep shitting on Burrow and breaking out stats about 'no 4th qtr tds in the playoffs' but he's done things for this specific shit-show of a team that few other guys could do. Then you can go ahead and say 'sure because elite wrs'. Except that he's done it without them.
He's not Mahomes because no one who's ever played QB in the NFL has ever been Mahomes, but as a QB he's never been worse than top 3 and he's done it with one of the most poverty franchises of all professional sports, ever. Without Burrow, we're the Cincinnati Temu Football team.
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I honestly do feel for you. I remember Mahomes’ first AFCCG when he did all that he could to have won the game only for the defense to cost him a chance at a SB rematch with the Rams. It was already bad enough that they couldn’t stop a cold, but Ward had the game ending INT only for it to be called back due to an offsides. It was crushing. To make it worse, Scandrick goes on TV and blames the offense for the loss.
Two years later he was absolutely running for his life as his OLine failed him in the SB. KC’s never had a true dominant run game before this year so they were very one dimensional, so it is understandable where you are coming from.
Regarding the Bengals now, I do think Burrow is better than some give him credit for. I also don’t blame him for making as much money as he can because your owner is cheap and your front office seems to have lost some magic as they aren’t bringing in quality FAs like they were with Trey and Reader.
They absolutely botched the whole Tee situation, took far too long in making the protection of Burrow a priority. Now with Chase due to get a new deal they are going to have to pay him even more than had they signed him right after Jefferson.
To this day I think they should have traded Chase last offseason. Having an elite WR is great, but when your team has as many holes as they do, they could have really used the extra picks they got for him in what was a very deep draft last year. They still could have signed Tee for far less than Chase and still given Burrow a weapon. His WR core would not have been as good, and the offense might have taken a hit, but they would have been more solid across the board, which KC has shown to be very successful the last two years.
Now don’t get me wrong, no QB can do it all on their own and it does take a village to win a SB (unless you hit lightning in a bottle one year). But for that to happen there has to be buy in from the owner down to the QB. Until then Cincy will always be fighting an uphill battle.