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Originally Posted by Chargem
Interesting post, I agree and I don't.
I do agree with you that strength is a better goal for most than mass/physique, but then I actually really respect Jeff Nippard, he is a bodybuilder but he also values strength etc infinitely more than the average youtube fitness bodybuilder type, he has strength specific programs and has been a powerlifter.
I also don't find the 30lbs of muscle claim that crazy, and he probably did most of that with strength training rather than bodybuilding. It may also be worth noting that both of Jeff's parents were competitive bodybuilders so its actually more his access to knowledge that gave him a headstart over the average gym newbie.
I got into the gym initially via discovering Starting Strength and 5x5, and people add a ridiculous amount of muscle in the first year or so with those programs all the time. Those that don't, assuming they actually follow the workout plan, either they start overweight and have no idea the ratio of fat loss to muscle gain when they succeed, or those who start out skinny generally don't eat enough to max out their potential gains and hit the kind of gains Jeff did.
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His channel was one of the first I followed and I still watch pretty much every video he releases... he has a ton of great information and he really tries to keep it real in terms of knowing not everyone is a powerlifter and results vary drastically, etc. He also does a really good job of detailing what to do with information... he doesn't just say "studies say lengthened partials are amazing, just do those!"... but he'll say how he mixes them into his routine or how you can mix them in.
This is the picture I'm referring to...
...that's the same video when he mentions his parents were body builders, so there's all kind of advantages with that in terms of a workout plan, nutrition, recovery, etc.... and then he's obviously genetically gifted on top of all that.
Could I have
ever looked like that? Yeah, kind of doubt it.
Pretty much all of those guys are very quick to pose throughout their video and tell you how much they lift, etc; so it can be a weird mix of information. He had a great video about where you should be at certain stages of lifting for bench, deadlift, and squat... and then it's oddly mixed with "by the way, I bench 800 pounds".
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with his approach or most others... they're first and foremost genetically gifted bodybuilders who figured it all out at a young age. Most of them are also personal trainers, so I think they gain a lot of perspective about the rest of us, plus through all of their studies and so forth.
Renaissance Periodization/Mike Israetel is someone I've followed more recently and I think he does a really great job or breaking a lot of it down even further to the everyday lifter... most of those guys do a great job of telling you what is optimal, what's the best exercise for a muscle group, etc; and Dr. Mike often takes it several steps further with all the variables that play a factor in results. He had a good one recently (that I may have posted here) where he details genetics from like 10 different angles and not just the "hard gainer" at 30k feet, and what 'average' really is, etc.