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Originally Posted by dlphg9
I get that they vote in November, but then Lamar shouldn't have been ranked ahead of Mahomes. At the end of November Lamar would have played 12 games and in those 12 games these were his stats.
2618 yds - 13 TDs - 5 INTs - 574 rushing yds - 5 TDs - 6 fumble lost
That's complete trash tbh. He had 1060 passing yds - 11 TDs - 2 ints - 247 rushing yds - 0 fumble lost in his final 4 games of the season.
The they voted early excuse doesn't really do it for me. McCaffrey also being ahead of him doesn't make any sense if they vote in Nov, because he only avg 85 yards per game and 4.9 ypc through the end of Nov and then his last 5 games he kicked it into high gear with 104 ypg and 6.6 ypc.
2/3 people that were voted as better than Mahomes didn't really ramp up until after the voting was over.
Also I don't even know what criteria they are supposed to follow. Since 2012 there has been 35 players that have played in 8 or less games, but ranked in the top 20. Hell weve had players ranked in the top 5 that barely played.
2011 - P. Manning - #2 - 0 games
2012 - D. Revis - #5 - 2 games
2014 - A. Peterson - #4 - 1 game
2015 - J J. Watt - #3 - 3 games
2015 - A. Peterson - #5 - 3 games
2018 - L. Bell - #5 - 0 games
2020 - M. Thomas - #5 - started only 5 games
2020 - C. McCaffrey - #6 - 3 games
2020 - G. Kittle - #7 - 8 games
2021 - D. Henry - #4 - 8 games
I have added those 2 extra from 2020 just for context. Somehow Kittle was ranked #7 with 634 yds 2 TDs and was ranked higher than Kelce (#18) who had 1416 yds and 11 TDs that year. Kelce also ranked higher than him in 2019 #21 vs #29. Kelce had 1229 yds and 5 TDs vs 1053 yds and 5 TDs from Kittle.
How in the hell can anyone justify Kittle jumping from outside the top 25 all the way to #7 and leap frogging Kelce who had just broke the single season receiving yards record and Kittle couldn't make past half the season?
All this really does is prove how incredibly stupid, biased, and jealous the players are and how completely ****ing pointless these rankings are. It's legitimately a complete waste of time and there doesn't seem to be any criteria to how they are voting. They need to figure out a completely different way to do these rankings.
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Lamar at no point in his career has been better than Mahomes. This is a sizable number of players in the leagues resenting Mahomes for his success because he’s not black enough for them. You hear a lot of that coded language among analysts like Ryan Clark that Lamar represents the “culture” meaning they’ll be biased toward him no matter what.