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Old 02-12-2024, 01:18 PM   #39754
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I love those stats, but I learned something a long while back in baseball - historical greatness is largely determined by the back half of these guys careers.

Tom Glavine was, I thought, the best example. At 30 years old he was, I thought, a very good pitcher. But hell, guys like Corey Kluber were better through 30 than Glavine. Glavine is great because of what he did from 31 and forward...

Brady's the same way. Hell, Jordan is. These guys were as great in the 2nd half of their career, when 'on the downhill slide' as they were as they entered and were in their primes.

Now maybe Mahomes is the exception to the rule; a Sandy Koufax or Pedro Martinez. A guy so preternaturally good that he's an all-timer based on a short body of work. Hell, we KNOW he is. But if he wants to clear Tom Brady in the eyes of many, it'll likely be what happens AFTER he's 35 that decides it. That's how crazy the numbers Brady put up were. Not because of what he did, but how long he did it and how long he sustained at that level.
One thing to keep in mind about Brady vs Mahomes debate will be that Brady will have played with the same coach for 98% of his career. Mahomes will be lucky to have Reid for 10 years. Will be lucky for Reid to say 2-3 more years. The rest of Mahomes career (10-12 years) will be with another coach who most likely won't be near as good as Reid.
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