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Originally Posted by Chris Meck
what kind of backwards walking shit is this?
MVS is a deep threat who suddenly (and yes, suddenly. His catch rate on almost strictly deep balls is 50% for his career, which isn't terrible considering his usage) can't catch anything at all.
If he simply catches TWO balls he's dropped, we win two more games.
If Toney simply drops the ball into the dirt instead of into a defender's hands for a pick 6, we win at least one more, possibly two.
With NOTHING else different. Like everything else just as ****ed up and disjointed.
You've been on this 'catch and run' thing as a catch phrase for months now, using it as a term to explain the opposite of apparently guys that can beat coverage. or something. It's nonsense.
These guys all shit the bed simultaneously. Moore you can say just never had it, but that's not been the case for MVS in his role, or Toney-who's only question prior to this season was health.
All three just flat fell apart. These were heroes of the '22 play-offs and Super Bowl. All they had to do was just be average and it would have been fine.
'Catch and run' is not a description of a type of receiver. It's a plus skill. Seeking out 'catch and run' receivers is not the reason KC's receivers suck. They suck because one just apparently can't get open at the NFL level, and two can't catch the ball.
It just means guys who are good with the ball in their hands. That's all. It doesn't mean what you've been trying to paint all of this time.
These guys suck because they've gone mentally soft and cracked under the pressure.
Defenses didn't make some grand adjustment. They do the same stuff they've always done. There's no great strategy change, other than they don't bother to double MVS deep as they know he won't catch it anyway.
There's no big adjustment. There's no such thing as a 'catch and run' receiver type.
It's ****ing nonsense.
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I mean good grief.. How good do you think toney and Mvs were prior to a great run last season? Mvs has always been erratic. Always. Toney has dome nothing but flash and people took a very small sample size and assumed he could be an every down reliable receiver. Sure these guys have regressed some. But glorifying these guys as if they have been anything but, at best, spare parts much of their career is ridiculous.
And yeah these guys are mostly catch and run. You think these guys are capable of doing things before a catch to be consistent targets? Simple shit like running the right route, finding spots in the zone, adjusting to what the defense gives them, hell even peewee level skills at making catch adjustments? No. At best most of these guys can catch something short and get YAC. This is why mahomes has atrocious air yards this season. You cannot build an entire offense around guys who are atrocious at doing basic downfield shit. And there is only so far you can take it when all your guys are specialists who can do one thing kinda well (not even exceptionally well) but is bad beyond that.
Yeah defenses did make adjustments. Buffalo evolved their scheme out of 12/13 because of Dawson knoxs injury and has seen way more success out of 11. Defenses are DARING us to throw downfield and if we had even remotely decent downfield targets we could throttle teams. God I saw ceedee lamb the other day and was jealous watching the guy run a simple out route. Yeah we CAN run an efficient enough offense if we just clean up mistakes. We should be better though very flawed. That is way different from the expectation that we have the right players if they wold just clean up their mistakes.