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Old 12-26-2023, 06:52 PM   #38918
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Originally Posted by Priest31kc View Post
Pat is amazing but he's not without his weaknesses. All QBs get rattled by pressure, especially pressure early in the game. Alot of times Pat will thrive under pressure, but when he doesn't, he REALLY gets rattled and get in his own head and he can't seem to snap out of it mid game.

And instead of seeing ghosts and getting rid of the ball asap, Pat sees ghosts and holds on to the ball for forever and bails clean pockets to try and engineer an easier, higher % throw out of structure instead of just taking what's there in structure. I think he starts to press and gets sped up going through reads and bails too early.

And yes, the WRs are terrible and the OTs are average at best and have many games where they're garbage, so it's tough to run a high volume straight drop back passing offense with little help from the run game and play action passing.

And while it definitely is better and smarter to throw to open windows rather than tight windows, and open receivers more than contested (especially with our last in the league in contested catch % receivers per usual), I still think Pat doesn't attempt as many tight window throws as he should with the arm talent he has, ESPECIALLY this year when our receivers have trouble getting separation consistently.

Instead of rifling a throw into a tight window in structure, Pat will pass it up and leave the pocket to find a higher % throw into an open window instead. With Pat, it's usually smart to do that, especially with the type of receivers we've had, but that hasn't been the case as much this year.

I also think it has alot to do with Andy never liking his QBs making low % throws and coaching it out of them some. It's just his offensive philosophy. That's why you don't see contested catch guys in his offenses and it's why you don't see his QBs throwing lower % throws deep down the sideline or into tighter windows as much as other offenses.

I think it becomes more of a problem when Pat gets rattled though as he becomes hesitant and lacks the confidence in himself it seems to make those throws with the perfect ball placement. While Pat's accuracy is very good, his ball placement isn't a huge strength of his. It suffers some because of how he plays and because his footwork isn't great because of how he plays.

So when he gets rattled, I think he not only doesn't have a ton of confidence in his receivers or OTs, but he loses his confidence in his ball placement too and doesn't want to put the ball in harms way in tighter windows in structure.

Every QB has weaknesses, and I think those are Mahomes'. And because he has nothing around him really, it's showing up more this season.
A lot of truth to this. But it all just points to having the wrong WRs for what we need to fix this. Even if he did all the things you say he’s afraid to do, our WRs are so bad at execution it’s risky. He can’t throw tight window passes because our WRs are easily the worst in the league at contested catches to the point where our WRs horrendous instincts make decent enough passes sitting ducks. He is afraid to take what he’s given because a short gain leads to an insurmountable 3rd and long.

We have catch and run players and we tripled down on this. And that worked before because the scheme made it easy last year for these guys to get easy catches with reasonable space. But they’re not good when these guys have to do elementary school work to create before the catch. Running good routes, reading the defense, finishing routes, adjusting to the ball, and fighting to get the contested catch. I think it’s fair to say all our WRs not named rice aren’t just bad, they’re very bad to terrible on these things. And even rice for all the great he’s done makes plenty of mistakes in these areas too.
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