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Originally Posted by stevegroganfan
I never said it provided "no advantages" so you have stated what I consider a false premise. If we both can get the same peons to steal signals but I can have my peons do that in 10 hours per week with videotaping while it takes your peons 20 hours with more labor intensive methods, I gain the advantage of deploying my peon on other activities.
Put another way. If an NFL team upgrades a couple of pieces of equipment in their weight room, they do so with the realization that chances are if it doesn't help in recruitment of players, it may just help them win 1 damn game in 25 year period. Maybe a whole new ulta modern weight room and training facility results in 1 win over 5-6 years. But most -- not all -- teams would still be willing to spend the money to increase odds of that extra win.
This logic is really the reason why NFL teams started hiring more assistant coaches and scouts. Long time ago, there wasn't many coaches/people in football operations but nowadays teams hire a crazy amount of coaches even though they must realize their is a diminishing returns after a certain point. Some teams don't care since in a competitive league one win over 5 to 10 year period can be important.
Belichick or any other coach in a league in which 1 regular season win over a 5 year period can be the difference between keeping your job, losing your job and never being a head coach again or losing your job and being hired elsewhere, will be happy to do something that increases the odds they get that additional win.
I can guarantee you if Belichick knew that deflate gate and Spygate would result in the loss of 2 first round picks and I believe a 3rd or 4th rounder, he would like to go back and have that all done and take his chances on what the Patriots would have done without that "minor convenience". Players win games much more than coaching and that is why the Patriots went from a bad team with a very good QB(Bledsoe) to very good team with the GOAT(Brady).
Mangini was defensive coordinator of the Patriots and he is on record saying the information wasn't very valuable. It was very minor but so isn't upgrading a few pieces of equipment in the weight room or a minor upgrade in trainers.
Every very little minor thing can add up and Belichick believed in doing as much as possible that was legal.
He was only hiding it from opponents to the extent he was since even if you think video taping in the NFL is legal from a certain area, you don't want your opponent to raise their guard more than they would have.
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So you admit they cheated, so the asterisks stand...