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Originally Posted by JPH83
MVS wasn't "good", but he was better, noticeably. Yes, I think Toney and Moore both look worse. Moore, maybe it's negligible, Toney has always been inconsistent but this year he's got a worse passing rating when targeted, worse yards per target, not to mention games like the Lions. Everything has trended down. Maybe it's the injury, maybe it's how he's been used.
To your point earlier that Reid needs some of the blame for this, maybe, my question this year is what changed? I'm not sure it's that the scheme is figured out, and the WR personnel haven't changed dramatically. Could be, but the more obvious answer is that Nagy and Embree are new in, and have done a terrible job of identifying what our WRs can and can't do within that scheme, and maintaining high standards. There's absolutely no reason Moore should be taking that many snaps on the outside, for example. Or people aren't lining up correctly.
I don't doubt teams have adjusted and that the scheme may not be working as well as in the past, with these WRs. I think that's largely because a) the players aren't good and we need more investment at WR than we've made and b) our coaches don't know what to do with them.
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I’m not thrilled with our assistant coaching. But I think it has more to do with the WRs not being able to do anything else than it does is not knowing what to do with them. These guys are all built for an offense that defenses want us to run. Toney is a catch and run guy who’s flopped when defenses took that away and he’s Had to function as more of a traditional WR. It feels like he should be better downfield but he like all other guys don’t seem to do well when the offense asks them to be smarter and make the right reads and adjustments - I think every one of our WRs lacks that. Skyy hasn’t been good, but the main reason he was brought in was to beat man coverage and get open quickly so he can catch and run. That’s what they thought we were getting. And Mvs is here purely to clear things out for the short stuff. Even Ritchie James was built for this. These guys just aren’t adaptable. That’s why it seems Watson is the one guy who can get consistently open. Because the guy has a bit more of an adaptable skill set. He just doesn’t have the talent to do it consistently.
And so it shouldn’t be a surprise that they get frustrated or discouraged when defenses take away the one thing they do well. Because these guys are largely one trick ponies. So we have a bunch of guys built for a scheme defenses know how to defend, and they lack adaptability to do anything differently
The one guy that has that flexibility is rashee and I agree we should be flexing him more. At the same time he’s a rookie and Reid is notorious for taking it slow and even he right now is best built for catch and run stuff too.