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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501
I mean, I’m not as sold that Mvs was as good as some people remember. He was called out by rodgers and lafleur for his practice habits and maddening inconsistency. But even if I give you that, did Toney and Moore actually regress? Moore just flat out doesn’t have it and toney has such a tiny sample size of big moments versus a long history of being wildly inconsistent on top of not demonstrating that he’s more than just a gadget option.
main question is… who in this team goes to a “better coached” offense and does better there? Does anyone think skyy is even rosterable or Toney is more than a gadget guy? Maybe Mvs plays better off of other guys but does anyone think his route and catch go away? I think we’ve got role guys to fit a scheme that’s been figureconsistencyd out and a bunch of guys punching way above the small role theyre best suited for.
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MVS wasn't "good", but he was better, noticeably. Yes, I think Toney and Moore both look worse. Moore, maybe it's negligible, Toney has always been inconsistent but this year he's got a worse passing rating when targeted, worse yards per target, not to mention games like the Lions. Everything has trended down. Maybe it's the injury, maybe it's how he's been used.
To your point earlier that Reid needs some of the blame for this, maybe, my question this year is what changed? I'm not sure it's that the scheme is figured out, and the WR personnel haven't changed dramatically. Could be, but the more obvious answer is that Nagy and Embree are new in, and have done a terrible job of identifying what our WRs can and can't do within that scheme, and maintaining high standards. There's absolutely no reason Moore should be taking that many snaps on the outside, for example. Or people aren't lining up correctly.
I don't doubt teams have adjusted and that the scheme may not be working as well as in the past, with these WRs. I think that's largely because a) the players aren't good and we need more investment at WR than we've made and b) our coaches don't know what to do with them.