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Originally Posted by JPH83
Where Chris is right earlier I think is that regression is probably the biggest issue. There's no obvious reason MVS should be this bad, Moore is even worse, Toney looks this much worse than in previous years (obviously the injury didn't help). That's why Nagy and Embree deserve the spotlight on them.
Outside of that it's harder to pin blame. I would say the WR committee approach has been a big mistake and hasn't helped Nagy and co. Maybe they wanted it, maybe it was Veach cobbling stuff together. But you have to think having that sort of rotation isn't great for chemistry and consistency. Good to cover the injury bug, but the idea seemed to be we'd try everyone out in different roles and see what worked. We still seem to have no idea other than what definitely doesn't work. Could be on Nagy, could be Veach, could be both.
On Veach it's hard to say. Looking at e.g. the draft investment it seems he hasn't prioritised as much in favour or building the D. But who knows who he tried to trade up for, if the rumours are true he's been after a WR and had no partners. There's also rumours he wanted Mazi Smith, so who knows. Perhaps they wanted WRs but just didn't like how they fell so went BPA. Fair enough.
On the other hand, going back to 2020, MEH is an egregious mistake. Not just because he's bad, but the resource allocation was terrible. There's no excuse, it was bad. 2021 was about protection so fine. 2022 and 2023, I know people love Karlaftis here but there's no way I prefer him even to that headcase Pickens, there's no way I prefer FAU over Rice in the first and Dell in the second etc. There's a LOT of ways we could have added more weapons to this team and haven't.
Make the argument Veach had a different plan and other GMs pushed it off course. But with the last 4 years of WR investment, I think it's hard to definitively say it's been a big priority for them.
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I mean, I’m not as sold that Mvs was as good as some people remember. He was called out by rodgers and lafleur for his practice habits and maddening inconsistency. But even if I give you that, did Toney and Moore actually regress? Moore just flat out doesn’t have it and toney has such a tiny sample size of big moments versus a long history of being wildly inconsistent on top of not demonstrating that he’s more than just a gadget option.
main question is… who in this team goes to a “better coached” offense and does better there? Does anyone think skyy is even rosterable or Toney is more than a gadget guy? Maybe Mvs plays better off of other guys but does anyone think his route and catch consistency go away? I think we’ve got role guys to fit a scheme that’s been figured out and a bunch of guys punching way above the small role theyre best suited for.