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Old 12-11-2023, 05:22 PM   #9806
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
No, they're not.

Everyone was excited about what Toney was doing down the stretch. This season he's been not just awful, but historically bad.

Skyy went exactly where every single draft source expected him to go. Plus route runner, great hands, hard worker. We've seen none of that.

MVS was a deep threat, 50% catch rate guy his whole career. This year he's ****ing terrible.

They've got a #1 and THREE #2's in that room. Nobody was wildly overdrafted. If you can't get even mediocre results out of that, it's the ****ing coaching.

*I'm still bullish on Rice, I just don't agree that he's 'developing'. I see the same things good and bad that were on his college tape. I think he's very talented, and don't include him in my 'historically bad' category. He's a raw but promising rookie.
But who were these guys before they came here.

Skyy has no proven experience. His entire draft stock was built on potential. At least rice had relevant college film to go off of.
Toney was notorious for being absent minded and unreliable
Watson is the same guy as last year. Except when you double his role, those occasional big plays look more occasional and those hidden mistakes become obvious
Mvs has regressed to his green bay days

I think you're basing a ton of the read on really small sample size. Mvs wasn't consistently great last year, he just had a few big games in big moments. We crowned toney as WR1 because of a few flash plays even though they barely used him as a wr last year. Before they became chiefs they were thrown into the trash, after they leave (as with mecole, drob) nobody is gonna scoop these guys up. That is as clear a sign as any that it’s a talent issue. We are playing guys that nobody wants to even stash on the back of their bench.

We decided to turn our 4/5 starting pitchers into Aces. Of course they’re going to look worse. They get more opportunities which given these guys means more mistakes, they get more attention from defenses, and their confidence gets rattled because every week they’re punching way above their weight.

The best coaching in the world can only do so much when these guys don’t have the instincts to play the position.
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