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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

What I find interesting is that in the delight in taking a victory lap, you guys are actually under-representing just how bad this WR group has been this season. It's not just bad, it's historically bad. It's been like almost 30 years since any team has had this drop percentage.

'Totally predictable results'? Oh no. Not even.

This is an unprecedented regression of an entire position group. MVS is the same guy? Gods no. Not even close. Toney is the same? No, not even close. Moore? He's not even the same as last February. It's the WHOLE ROOM, all WORSE than in February.

You could make an argument that they wouldn't be great-that's reasonable. If they're even run of the mill lousy, this team is 10-3 or 11-2.

Do you have any faith that if they ran 'corn dog' that Toney catches the ball? I don't.
Do you have any faith that if Kelce lined up wrong in the slot that Toney would have the instincts to cover the OT, and not go in motion, and instead indicate to Mahomes that they should motion Moore instead? No, me neither. And that Moore would run that route and actually catch that ball for the TD in the biggest moment of the biggest game of his life? No, me neither.
Do you believe that MVS is capable right now of performing like he did in the AFCCG, when we absolutely had to have someone step up for 6-116 and a TD? Yeah, no. No way. He's broken.

THIS, this was not predictable.

It's entirely reasonable to expect your young players to improve with experience. It's entirely reasonable for a group of players to be better in year two of an Andy Reid offense than year one.

It's not normal to have an entire group regress to historically bad across the board.

This is on coaching, boys.

This is on poor attention to details and lack of accountability on the part of the offensive coordinator and the WR coach. There is no reason for the ENTIRE group to have become unplayable.

Talent? **** that argument. We can not like the Skyy Moore pick, but the fact is that he went about where every prognosticator thought he would, in the second round. Toney was a first rounder.

Rice is the only one that's shown anything, and he is what we should have expected-a talented but somewhat raw rookie.

MVS's drop rate is astronomical. Toney has no idea what he's doing. Skyy Moore can't run a route or get open to save his life.

The only guy that's roughly the same guy as last year is Watson, who's a #4 type guy that can occasionally play up.

Ritchie missed most of the season, but he was a first down machine with Danny 'brother can you spare a dime' in NY.

Toney missed camp, but damn, that was 14 weeks ago. What the hell?

No, this group should have been at LEAST mediocre.

Instead, it's historically bad.

So enjoy your victory lap. I'm sure it's satisfying.

If these guys were the same guys as last year, this team would be 10-3 or 11-2.

Nagy and Embree ****ing suck at this.

I'm not taking any kind of 'victory lap,' jfyi. I'm sick, almost literally ill, about the situation. Have been since the DEN loss. not that I expect you to believe me, but whatever.



Mostly i agree with your rant.


But a couple things: Rice actually has the worst drop rate on the team, 10.7%. Well, outside of James and Ross (14%/30%), but since they have 13 tgts between them for the season, I'm not counting them. Bitch about that if you like.

In fact, he's got nearly twice as many drops as the entire SF offense. But he's a rook, and we knew he had drop issues (and fumble issues) before the season started. But he's the best WR we have, so not much we can do about it right now. have to keep putting him out there, or the offense would probably collapse from the first drive.


Second, while i agree that coaching is a big part of the issue, at the end of the day these were supposed to be professional NFL WRs.

Ultimately, it's on the individual WRs to put in the work to be excellent, and they haven't done that. not one of these guys has taken it upon themselves to be great, to improve. To say to themselves, "let me be the one to become Pat's go-to guy." "Let me be the one to run all my routes correctly," "let me be the one to find a way to get open quickly and/or 'on time.,'" "let me be the one that spends hours after practice working on catching the ball," and so on.

In short, not one of these guys has shown the tiniest bit of accountability, or even embarrassment, concerning their level of play. According to MVS, "they don't know what we're talking about."

They've been doing what most of them were doing last season, which is the bare-ass minimum. Or worse.


And the lack of a true veteran WR in that room is also a big part of why these guys are shitting themselves. They have no one to look up to, no one to take notes from, no one to show them the dozens of little tricks that good vets always have in their bags.

Except for a rookie, or a $10 million joke of a decoy.


That's on Andy and Veach.