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Old 12-02-2023, 09:42 AM   #8450
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief View Post
He’s been worse than last year with a similar caliber of WRs.

Can we acknowledge that? It hardly means he’s been bad - he’s still a top 3-5 QB and doesn’t always need to be at MVP level - but it’s entirely possible his playing at that level last year elevated the group and gave hope to Veach, etc that he could do it again.
Yes, mahomes has been worse. As has reid and kelce. It’s also ok to get why veach did what he did while also acknowledging he made a forgivable mistake.

It may seem to some that WR critics are anti chiefs. It just strikes me as odd how casually these people shrug off lobbing everyone under the bus from mahomes to kelce (aging, maybe he’s distracted) to fire embree to Nagy is a shit playcaller and EB who we hated before now needs to come back… none of this shit gets challenged even as they ramp that narrative up a notch. While there’s truth to plenty of the above some of us believe those issues are rooted in bad WRs. And some of us believe a lot of this criticism is deflecting blame and it seems to come strongest from those who defend to the death that our WRs are just a piece of the problem instead of the main dish.

mahomes gets the benefit of the doubt. Burrow is an elite qb. When he doesn’t like what he sees he just chucks it up to Chase. Mahomes cant do that (hopefully as rice improves, he finally can). Other QBs can throw to a spot and know their WR will get there. We keep asking mahomes to do that and yet when he does, that spot is the wrong spot because the WR made a dumb route or catch adjustment, and when they do get to the ball they drop it. Mahomes stares down kelce because he’s the only one he can anticipate open because he can actually read the defenss.. Kelce could easily still be kelce if the entire defense wasn’t collapsing on him. We’re not even talking about WRs elevating these guys. We’re just talking about all the things these guys can’t do because a few guys on offense just aren’t good. Sorry if that makes me a pessimist that I believe the simple step of putting competent (even if unspectacular) talent around them is a way more reasonable fix than asking why these guys make mistakes while carrying around a 600 lb backpack.
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