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Old 07-28-2023, 01:23 PM   #403
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Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
Everyone points to the Bengals game. Yes Chris had an amazing game, but everyone helped. Danna played well, Frank played well, Karlaftis played well for the most part, Spags created nice designs (Willie Gay sack).

"We don't win that game without Chris". Sure but the offense was seriously hampered. Mahomes couldn't move and we lost Toney, Juju and Watson. He basically had Kemp and rookie Skyy out there at WR. The offense was injured and it showed.

Despite that Mahomes still balled with MVS. But yes if we had one of Juju or Toney and Mahomes isn't hurt, we blow them out to the ****ing water. We were on pace too until Mahomes weird fumble.

And keep in mind that Jones and others dominated a backup Bengals OL. Their starting tackles and G were all out.

Chris didn't really do anything in the SB either. Bottom line this team runs on Mahomes, Andy and Kelce. It's always been this way.
Chris Jones has a very large domino effect on the defense in a multitude of different ways. Lets take a look at his double team rate and his effectiveness against double teams:



Not only is Chris Jones amongst the highest double teamed defensive tackle, he is by far and away the most effective at winning through a double team. What this does for the Chiefs is a couple of different things:

1- Allows their edge rushers more 1 on 1 matchups. I think this point is particularly important because our edge rushers are so young. I think it gives them a better opportunity to develop their technique and allow them success early on at the NFL level.

2. A higher sense of predictability against other teams protection schemes. Not many teams are going to give Chris Jones a 1 on 1 matchup on 3rd and long. If you understand where the protection or help for the guard is coming from, it is easier to scheme pressure. Spags I think has done a really good job of this, especially last season.

3. Allows the Chiefs to rush 4 more often with success, which gives the secondary more bodies in coverage.

You'll see games where Jones doesn't have the splash plays or lights up the stat sheet but I guarantee you the attention he draws week in and week out allows other players easier matchups so they can shine.

The only real knock on Chris Jones is that he isn't a fantastic run defender. I think the games against the Bengals in which we've lost in the past is because their offense has done a nice job in staying ahead of the sticks and being in manageable down & distances. Signings like Brandon Williams, Danny Shelton or draft picks like Nnadi & Saunders (pure run defender + space eater) are because the Chiefs need a DT to be paired with Jones that can compliment him nicely. This defense is designed to rush the passer and get pressure on the QB, we just got to get to 3rd and 7+.

A few of us have discussed this in the draft forum. The Chiefs are on the cusp of being on par with the greatest dynasties in NFL history and Chris Jones needs to be on the roster for us to do that. We are in a Super Bowl window, and although we were able to mitigate the loss of Tyreek Hill, I don't think we have the players on defense to make up for the loss of Chris Jones.
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