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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar
Of course he was going to be ranked highly in longevity stats at retirement. He played far more games than most of the other top QBs. That's like comparing his TD total to Mahomes. How 'bout TD percentage? Unitas finished with a career TD% of 5.6, in an even less QB-friendly era. Elway's was 4.1. If you were even trying to be objective, you'd admit that this tells us a lot more than career totals.
No one thinks that Elway wasn't good. But we're debating whether he deserves to be considered one of the 5 greatest QBs to ever play in 130 years of football. You're acting like only a few have impressive accomplishments. For argument's sake, what is it that made him greater than, say, Roethlisberger? I'm sure you'll say "he appeared in more Super Bowls!!" without providing the context that Ben had to go through Brady and Manning instead of Bernie freaking Kosar.
It's convenient to ignore all the pre-Super Bowl era QBs, while also dismissing most modern QBs due to rules changes. And ignoring factors like a weak AFC, numbers that didn't compare that well vs the other top QBs of his era, a bunch of non-playoff seasons, an MVP that should've gone to Jerry Rice, etc. You also ignore that basically only Denver fans rank Elway in the top 5.
If Denver had two all-time top 5 QBs for two decades....don't you think it's sad that they're tied with the Chiefs in Super Bowls, with fewer NFL championships, a lower win % and a lopsided head to head record?
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LOL...Elway is always in the top ten by most measures and opinions and typically top 5 in most publications of note. And Denver always has two QBs in the top ten. Chiefs have 1 too if you want to count Joe Montana, but Lin kinda puts the lid on that. Even Patrick Mahomes has Elway in his top 5.