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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
No, Mahomes is in a completely different class than most QBs. I have no issues saying that, the dude is incredible to watch.
I'm just saying that despite whatever shortcomings people believe Elway had (25 years later) or the coaching, etc... when he retired, there were only 1-2 guys that were right up there with him.
Longevity stats - people tend to pick and choose when they use them. My comment is that when he retired, compared to all those that came before him, he was consistently a top threat. I know there were many around here in '99 that were happy to see him gone.
The game continues to change. The 80s/90s were much different than the 60s/70s, it happens. We are at a point now where there are probably quite a few posters on this board that never saw him, Marino, Moon, etc play.
Look at a lot of those leaders boards now and there are few that I would want as a QB in his prime leading a team over Elway.
You can be a Rivers, Ryan, etc kind of QB with longevity and nice stats, but they were never known as clutch. Reeves was a very conservative guy, hell as soon as he left, just look at the production in the Phillips and Shanahan years... totally different than Reeves.
Mahomes is a generational talent and he could very well knock Brady from the top of Lombardi Mountain.
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At the end of the day, we all respect Elway. I just think it's a stretch to put him in the top 5 all-time. I think Elway tends to get a bump based on his initial hype, raw ability, style of play, nostalgia, etc. I think he and Mahomes are similar in terms of ability and style, but I think Mahomes is more consistent, among others.