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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
The reasoning is crap because it's the kind of nebulous bullshit you hear from talking heads when they don't have a real argument to make so they're trying to will one into existence.
The CBS author says "Hey, maybe he is the best..." and then crickets. He suggested that Palmer should be making a different argument but damn sure never attempted to establish what that argument might be.
Because the only way to argue this point is to, as they say, baffle you with bullshit. Make an argument so gray and so fluid that you can't really directly attack it. Don't say "Well he's more accurate" because that can be addressed...and dismissed. Or that he's more mobile. Or has a stronger arm. Or that he's more accomplished. You can't say any of that because it's leading with your chin.
But you can say nonsense like "He runs the plays" or "He processes better" because there's not a simple statistical argument that you can be beat over the head with.
Trust me - Carson stood in front of a mirror for a few days practicing that little speech and has a trashcan full of crumpled up efforts at making precisely the kind of 'good' arguments that CBS Sports says he should make.
The problem is - he can't make 'em. They flat don't exist.
There is no discussion here - Patrick Mahomes is the best QB in football and anyone that says otherwise is just selling you something.
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What I am always fascinated by is how Mahomes' weapons were viewed as a liability and the reason for his success, yet no other QB has that held against them. Burrow has two #1 WRs and one high #2. Yet that is never held against Burrow.
Burrow is good no doubt. He is on a HOF path. If he retired today he would not be in the HOF.
Mahomes is better and is on a Greatest to Ever Play The Position path. He could retire today and very likely be a HOFer if not a first ballot HOFer.
Mahomes is a threat to the old guard. He plays a style very different than most of the old school QBs and doing it better than they did with their style. That is unnerving because he's doing things everyone was taught to NOT do and he is paving the way for a new style of QB coming up. Kids are growing up to be the next Mahomes, not the next Carson Palmer. Burrow is the last of a dying breed of the pure pocket passer.