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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan
Deandre Hopkins has a very legitimate chance to go down as a top 5ish receiver to ever play the game. EVER!
For those that dont agree, take away Jerry Rice, Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson. Tell me who else had a clear-cut more accomplished career at 30 years of age. His numbers are right there with ANYONE else you can name. Anyone!
Now do me another favor, google career stats and see what kind of years all the greats had at 31, 32 and 33 years of age. Seriously take 5 minutes to look. 95% of these dudes had multiple ENORMOUS years in their early 30s. Rice, Moss, Owens, Andre Johnson, Steve Smith, Fitzgerald, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Cris Carter.
The only "greats" who didnt have monster years in their early 30s were Meagtron who retired at 30. I think we can all agree had Megatron decided to continue to play he wouldve had several more huge years. The second is Julio Jones whose body flat out broke down.
The fact that we are arguing over a 2nd round pick in order to acquire an all-time great is utterly absurd. You want a 3-peat? Trade for DHop! Want a chance to go down as the greatest dynasty ever? Trade for DHop! If you can make the cap work? Trade for DHop! No brainer.
And to end this "debate", a look back at every 2nd round pick KC has made since 2000: William Bartee, Eddie Freeman, Kawika Mitchell, Junior Siavii, Kris Wilson, Bernard Pollard, Turk McBride, Brandon Flowers, Dexter McCluster, Javier Arenas, Rodney Hudson, Jeff Allen, Mitch Morse, Chris Jones, Tanoh, Breeland Speaks, Hardman, Thornhill, Gay, Bolton, Humphrey. How many of those dudes have been pillars of our franchise? At best a 20% hit rate. Everyone else complete busts or JAGs.
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This is tarded. The guy has become injury prone and has missed 3 games for a hamstring/thigh issue and then he missed more games later because he tore his MCL on the same leg as the hamstring. He gets suspended for steroids and comes back to once again hurt that same knee that he tore his MCL.
Julio Jones was better than Hopkins and he fell off a cliff after he turned 30. You know what happened to him? He was relatively healthy and then became a broke dick. AJ Green was on a HOF trajectory, but once he hit 30 he sucked shit. Those are all recent examples and all of your examples come from years ago. Here's a list of 31 year old WRs that have over a 1000 yards each season starting with the most recent.
2022 - 0 - Adam Thielen (32)(716 rec yards) was 50th in receiving yards and closest to 1000 yds.
2021 - 0 - AJ Green (33) (848 rec yards) was 36th in receiving yards and closest to 1000 yds.
2020 - 0 - Cole Beasley (31) (967 rec yards) was 23rd in receiving yards and closest to 1000.
2019 - 1 - Julian Edelman (33) (1117 rec yards) was 18th in receiving yards.
2018 - 0 - Emmanuel Sanders (31) (868 rec yards) was 27tb in receiving yards and closest to 1000.
So 1 wide receiver that was 31 or older had over 1000 yards in a season over the last 5 years. This doesn't happen anywhere close to as often as you are saying it does.
Also why are you going back to 2000? Brett Veach has only drafted since 2018 and his record has been pretty good after that year.