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You know that jump the Chiefs offense made from 2017 to 2018? Denver is going to be getting that.
These guys are going to be totally different players. Chiefs fans know how much a top 5 QB changes an offense.
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He has all the information he needs.
1. Rodgers made it known he wanted to go to Denver.
2. The Packers are in cap hell, and made assurances to Rodgers that if he came back they would let him dictate his future in 2022.
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Rodgers is going to slay the youth and reclaim his legacy
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Stafford was 5 years younger and the Lions only received two late 1sts and a 3rd for him. And the Lions had to take on Goff's contract!
The #9 overall pick alone is worth 1350 points on the trade chart, a pick between #29-#32 is worth roughly 600 points on the trade chart.
The price might not be as high as you think.
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#ThePatonPlan
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The Rams were competing with the 49ers and Broncos for Stafford last year and only gave up two late 1's and a 3.
Stafford didn't have the ability to dictate his destination the way Rodgers does this year. The Packers will get a nice package but I don't think it's going to be a massive haul. Rodgers holds the cards, not GB, not Denver, not any other team.
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From Andrew Brandt's Sunday Newsletter:
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Congrats on beating Keesum, Flacco, Paxton, Drew Lock, and Teddy Bridgewater.
What do you think Mahomes' record will be against Rodgers? Will he win even a single game?
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Green Bay is just trying to increase the number of picks the Broncos will give them. General Paton will hold the line.
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#TheHackettPlan
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#ThePatonPlan
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#ThePatonPlan
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This is the same stuff they've been saying. I'm not interested in that.
I am interested in them acknowledging the possibility of Rodgers being traded. They never once said that last year.
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I've been hearing about these contract negotiations for over a week. Is this why they have been unable to come to terms? The Packers aren't going to destroy their cap in the future for one more year of Rodgers and nobody is going to give up anything significant if Rodgers won't waive his opt-out.
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NFL personnel departments already think Paton and his staff are better. They even gave them an award for it.
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
Oh, I hear ya... it's just the same tired stuff with this one and then he vanishes... only to return and throw out the same boring BS. Every end of season is a restart - come back in January, talk crazy shit and then in Oct... bail at the midpoint. Rinse/Repeat
Most others stick around year round for the most part or don't show up and throw up 24/7 for 3 months until the season starts.
He's just an annoying douche and it's not even smack or trash talk with this one, he's incapable.
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#ThePatonPlan
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#ThePatonPlan
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He came back a bit too early from a thumb injury last year.
He's still only 33. Guys like Elway and Steve Young both set their career high for passing TD's when they were 37. Elway's best stretch of his career came when he was between 33-38 years old.
Russ will adapt. What he loses physically he'll make up for mentally.
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General Paton still has plenty of ammo
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UhOh
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Some stealth ops shit by General Paton
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I'd assume Paton preferred the 33 year old HOF QB, who spends $1,000,000 per year on his body and plans on playing until he's 45, over the 38 year old HOF QB, who could retire at any moment.
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I don't know why you'd concede the division to the Chiefs for the next decade. The AFCW will be a tossup for the foreseeable future.
Back when the Chiefs had Mahomes and the rest of the QB's in the division were Carr, an unknown rookie named Herbert, and Drew Lock, yeah, the Chiefs had it locked down. It's a whole new world now. KC is in a very precarious situation right now. They have major holes at important positions (DL, RT, CB), plus some holes at WR, RB, and safety and they don't have a lot of cap room to address them (currently $6M over the cap).
Mahomes isn't enough anymore. The difference between the top 5 to 7 QB's in the league is tiny. Besides overall team health, pass rush and defense is the thing that is going to determine who wins more Super Bowls in this division over the next 5 years.
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Let's play, "Which one's Mahomes!"
68.2%
2.32 TD's per game
.60 INT's per game
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66.3%
2.34 TD's per game
.59 INT's per game
* These numbers were from the past two seasons.
** Two games where Russ came back too early from injury were removed
*** Mahomes has Andy Reid calling plays for him
**** One of these QB's are supposedly showing severe signs of regression
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Go Hawks Let's Ride!
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Why would you come to the AFC West?
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How the General got his guy
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Seahawks general manager John Schneider, believing the Broncos would pursue Wilson if he was made available, texted Paton to meet at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala.
“That’s when he asked if we would have some interest,” Paton said.
The answer was a resounding yes. Did Paton think it was a long shot?
“You don’t know,” he said. “But I’ve known John a long time and trust him and he mentioned we were one of a few teams Russell was potentially open to moving to.”
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The sides remained in contact as the calendar flipped to February. Paton said there was never a step backward during negotiations. Paton knew it would take a combination of players and picks — and a lot of both — to get a deal done.
“We went back and forth prior to getting to the combine,” he said. “I don’t know how many times (the sides talked), but we were well on our way prior to the combine and we had exchanged different proposals.
“It heated up at the combine, for sure.”
Throughout the process, the usually collaborative Paton closed ranks within the Broncos, leaning on advisor John Elway and assistant general manager Darren Mougey.
“It was tough because I couldn’t really let them all in on it,” Paton said. “It was something we had to keep in a really tight group, 3-4 of us. I just felt there was too much to lose if this got out. It was a credit to everybody involved that, shoot, this went on for a month and it never leaked and that’s really rare.”
Paton was presented a hypothetical: Would his focus have shifted if Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers was equal parts available and wanted to play for the Broncos?
“Russell was our No. 1 priority from the moment we learned he was available,” Paton said. “We were consumed with getting him here to Denver.”
When Rodgers’ camp announced his decision to stay with the Packers on the morning of March 8, Wilson was already on a plane to Denver. Once at the Broncos’ facility, the Seahawks emailed the document waiving his no-trade clause, which he signed and returned.
https://www.denverpost.com/2022/03/1...-george-paton/
Some more from Breer:
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About to leave the out-of-the-way Indianapolis bar that served as one of their rendezvous points during a series of secret combine-week meetings and head home for Seattle, Seahawks GM John Schneider handed Broncos GM George Paton his yellow valet tag, No. 16157, from the downtown JW Marriott. On the back was scrawled Schneider’s final proposal, if he were to agree to deal franchise quarterback Russell Wilson to Denver.
It read:
2022 – 1ST
2022 – 2ND
2023 – 1ST
2023 – 2ND
With a list of player names to follow.
And there they were, in front of Paton, the bones of a deal that took secrecy, time, strong relationships and a ton of capital to complete. It was Sunday, and by the time the sun set in Indianapolis, both guys would be on their way home, already knowing they were well on their way to fundamentally changing the foundation of two NFL franchises.
Less than two days later, Wilson was in Denver to sign a waiver to override his no-trade clause, take a physical and complete a massive trade that’ll become official on Wednesday.
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Last Monday really was about tweaking the deal—nailing down which players would go to Seattle from Denver and adding the pick-swap nuance to it. And the virtual handshake took place late that afternoon, with Schneider granting the Broncos permission to fly Wilson in, and Wilson getting a look at the waiver he’d need to sign to move his no-trade clause out of the way of a deal.
Early Tuesday morning, Wilson, his wife, Ciara, and Rodgers boarded a private jet for Denver. They were already airborne when the news broke that Aaron Rodgers was staying in Green Bay. They were still up there an hour later, at about 11:30 a.m. MT, when their own big news broke.
Paton was sitting in his office for that one, relaxing in knowing what a couple others in the building did—that the Broncos’ new quarterback was en route. And so when the bombshell hit Twitter, with the secret still safe with a just few people, he’d given himself the chance to enjoy the reaction from his seat, hearing little celebrations explode from all around the team’s suburban Denver headquarters.
From there, Wilson arrived. Paton met with him, and then Wilson was off to summit with Hackett and his new offensive coaches, checking the final box he wanted to before officially signing the waiver, which allowed for him to take a physical on site and finish the trade. Later Tuesday, the group, appropriately, went to Elway’s Steakhouse for dinner to celebrate. And Wednesday, Wilson got a call from Elway himself to welcome him in.
For some in Denver, the day itself had a lot of the markings and trappings of a similar day 10 years ago, when Peyton Manning became a Bronco.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/14/mm...rady-unretires |
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Maybe. But we have General Paton and you have Let's Reach, do you really think $5M extra cap space per year is enough to overcome that advantage?
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Mahomes has almost set the ceiling at QB. Dak, Josh Allen, and Matt Stafford have all signed contracts after the Mahomes deal and every one of the came in under Mahomes' AAV.
Rodgers and Watson had unique circumstances to their negotiations. Watson had three teams competing for him and only managed to get $1M per year than Mahomes.
Who knows what Wilson's contract demands will be. If it's more than Mahomes' deal it will be a relatively negligible amount. Let's Reach already borrowed from Mahomes' deal in a failed attempt to win another trophy. General Paton can do that in the future too, if he so chooses.
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I'd be mad if my GM threw away premium picks on Frank Clark and Orlando Brown (after whiffing on Trent Williams). They're going to be paid like elite caliber players and they are far from it.
Irrelevant. You were beating up on a team without a QB. The Chiefs have had one of the easiest divisions in the entire league since 2018. The Chiefs will be lucky to win the division more than once over the next 4 years.
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 We should start quoting these same exact texts from a year ago for the lulz. |
Here's some extremely delusional thinking from the ****ing idiot last off-season. Some funny ones from other people talking shit on him too. He was just positive they were getting Rodgers last year and kept posting Kyle Brandt tweets lmao. He's a ****ing tard. |