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Originally Posted by Rams Fan
I think they'll probably have some drop off in a year or 2 when Burrow's contract hits. It'll be more interesting to see what happens with their offense though as they can't afford Higgins/Chase/Boyd long-term. I think they should move on from Mixon sooner than later.
Also, going by eye test, Burrow hasn't played like shit like Allen did in his 2 PO games this year. He looked like ass vs Miami and he looked like ass vs Cincy. His play vs Miami would have likely cost them the game (along with their defense) if Miami had a QB with a pulse.
Nick Foles is 1-0 vs Brady in the SB, but when you look at the #s, Brady actually outplayed Foles by a large margin. I'd also argue Eli shouldn't have won either SB MVPs (Tyree and Manningham deserve more credit, IMO, with their catches).
Yes, 28-3 is awful. But how much on that is on Ryan vs the defense/Shanahan going conservative on offensive playcalling?
Rivers played on a torn ACL in the AFC Championship game losing by 9 against a team that went 16-0 and had another season end because Schottenheimer went full Schottenheimer vs the Patriots at the worst possible time in 2006 along with a DB fumbling an interception to give Brady a chance to tie the game.
To me, to be considered elite, a QB's play has to elevate those around him. I'd argue Rivers and Ryan both did that.
His defense has helped, yes. But Burrow hasn't played well. He's put the Bengals in a situation to win. As I said, his #s last year were comparable to Jimmy G in the POs. I recognize the defense has been opportunistic and is a large part of their success. But acting as if Burrow is like Trent Dilfer is inaccurate.
If your argument is that Burrow isn't Mahomes, fine. I agree. But if you're going to discredit him, you'd have to day the same with a guy like Brady or Roethlisberger who had good defenses/supporting casts.
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1. To me 28-3 is very much on Ryan as he did nothing to stop the bleeding. Not saying the playcalling was great, but he was no rookie and should have done something. Plus his sack that took the Falcons outside of FG range near the end of the game. That was inexcusable. Also at the end of the day, the QB gets the glory for wins and the blame for losses. Eli still has two rings and SB MVPs so clearly it wasn't everyone but him. Plus look at the Tyree catch. Eli did a lot just to get that pass off. Sure Foles is 1-0 against Brady, but that is not relevant as he is a career back up.
2. Rivers has zero SB appearances despite having tons of talent around him. His team failed to make the playoffs one year despite having the #1 offense and #1 defense. Ryan was a bulk stats guy. He was surrounded by a lot of high end offensive talent. I never saw a guy who elevated those around him. Just a guy who won and put up great stats when surrounded by talent.