ChiefsPlanet - View Single Post - Chiefs Can we stop with the trade Chris Jones shit?

kccrow · 12-08-2022, 06:27 PM

I always try to look at these things by disassociating my personal like for the player from the overall potential net result.

It's a reason I favored trading away Tyreek. With Tyreek, there was an opportunity to replace a solid segment of his production in Free Agency at a relatively modest cost. Several supporting pieces remained intact for Mahomes to help filter the loss.

I'd need to come away with a similar feeling about trading Chris Jones. No supporting pieces help filter the trade, so I look for a replacement level for his overall impact. What can the Chiefs get in the draft and free agency that make up for him?

There are very few defensive tackles that are able to apply pressure on the QB routinely. DaRon Payne would be a great get, but he's most probably getting the franchise tag. He's also going to cost a lot of money. The most reasonable is probably Javon Hargrave, who is 2 years older than Jones and is still going to cost a bit. I'd consider Dre'Mont Jones, but at 25 and with good production, how cheap will he come in? Zach Allen is probably next on the list and he's coming in at 50% of Jones' production. There are a few options, so I feel OK about it. I'd probably set my sights on Dre'Mont Jones, honestly.0

Now, is there an opportunity to improve other pieces to help with that whole "filtering" bit and perhaps increase the overall effectiveness of the D-Line? I think there are a couple of options in free agency but not too many, namely Ngakoue and Smoot. I think the rest of the options are primarily projections and hope.

Overall, you're really trying to target 2 of 4-5 total players in order to offset the loss of Jones. That's workable to me. You also have the draft to really look to improve.

I'm OK with trading Jones but Veach would have to bust his ass to ensure he locked up a couple of these guys and he's still going to need to attack the draft for the defensive line.

If the net of trading Jones got me a top-15 LT, Dre'Mont Jones, and Yannick Ngakoue plus draft pick investments with the late 1st and a 2nd or 3rd, I'm a pretty happy dude this off-season.

12-08-2022, 06:27 PM	#65
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1050000	I always try to look at these things by disassociating my personal like for the player from the overall potential net result. It's a reason I favored trading away Tyreek. With Tyreek, there was an opportunity to replace a solid segment of his production in Free Agency at a relatively modest cost. Several supporting pieces remained intact for Mahomes to help filter the loss. I'd need to come away with a similar feeling about trading Chris Jones. No supporting pieces help filter the trade, so I look for a replacement level for his overall impact. What can the Chiefs get in the draft and free agency that make up for him? There are very few defensive tackles that are able to apply pressure on the QB routinely. DaRon Payne would be a great get, but he's most probably getting the franchise tag. He's also going to cost a lot of money. The most reasonable is probably Javon Hargrave, who is 2 years older than Jones and is still going to cost a bit. I'd consider Dre'Mont Jones, but at 25 and with good production, how cheap will he come in? Zach Allen is probably next on the list and he's coming in at 50% of Jones' production. There are a few options, so I feel OK about it. I'd probably set my sights on Dre'Mont Jones, honestly.0 Now, is there an opportunity to improve other pieces to help with that whole "filtering" bit and perhaps increase the overall effectiveness of the D-Line? I think there are a couple of options in free agency but not too many, namely Ngakoue and Smoot. I think the rest of the options are primarily projections and hope. Overall, you're really trying to target 2 of 4-5 total players in order to offset the loss of Jones. That's workable to me. You also have the draft to really look to improve. I'm OK with trading Jones but Veach would have to bust his ass to ensure he locked up a couple of these guys and he's still going to need to attack the draft for the defensive line. If the net of trading Jones got me a top-15 LT, Dre'Mont Jones, and Yannick Ngakoue plus draft pick investments with the late 1st and a 2nd or 3rd, I'm a pretty happy dude this off-season.
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